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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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297 days into the new year only 68 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network

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get x

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing how you

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it's halloween week

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and i've got two

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thanksgiving right christmas

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halloween it's coming up now uh this

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week on fade to black tonight

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craig campobaso is with us he is

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here to discuss his new book it is

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extraterrestrial species almanac there

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the links for this are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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uh we have it up on the website all of

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are there but you can go and get your

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amazing book i have it here we'll be

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talking about this tonight also we're

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going to talk about dune

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yeah did you see dune over the weekend i

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uh daughter nicole stopped by

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uh that was on saturday and we had lunch

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she would get up and put in the video

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tonight too as well as his new book the

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stories wednesday night is our annual

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readings all night long that's going on

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wednesday night it's a huge night for us

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and uh i just got a chance to meet and

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hang out with her for a week and she was

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she'll be with us on wednesday night

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thursday night is a very special fader

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night we're going to do open lines but

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ray's hobbs is joining us

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race into uh hanging out and taking some

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phone calls and doing some stuff

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you tonight i hope that everybody's

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my one of my mackies and

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working i didn't go back and check audio

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i didn't i didn't do anything

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i reinserted the compressors and so it

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just may sound a little bit different

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over uh the next few days but i i just

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love the sound of this console it is so

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warm and so nice so anyway um if it

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what is going on and and i'm looking the

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levels seem like they're a little low

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so i don't know uh everything is set and

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when i brought in two guests one

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couldn't hear the other one guest could

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hear everything

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the other guest could only hear me and

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not the other guest

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wednesday so i just pulled the trigger

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uh the mackie and i've got uh

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it should we shouldn't have any issues

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okay so well i'm gonna test it before

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shaw's on the show

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but uh there you go okay

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uh where am i at i will be at the star

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works usa ufos all the above and beyond

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conference coming up this november 12th

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through the 14th

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in laughlin nevada at the aquarius hotel

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and casino great great hotel great

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facility great people there

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jacques vale is going to be there paul

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heineck i can't wait for that colin

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andrews grant cameron's going to come in

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uh live teleconference jaime moussan's

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going to be there 10 other amazing

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speakers come and hang out with us

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and uh tickets and info are over at

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starworksusa.com

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just click on the links below you can do

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that there's links all throughout social

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media go and get your tickets and we'll

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see you in a couple of weeks i can't

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believe it yes literally

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in a couple of weeks right there in

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laughlin nevada i had something else

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i wanted to add to that

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i was talking to race hobbs on the phone

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and uh talking about this week and and

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what's going on over at on x very

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excited about that

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console he sent me a picture of his

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mackie and we were comparing mackies

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the thing i said yeah man i got

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flashlights everywhere flashlights you

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never know when the power is going to go

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power went out i couldn't believe it

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and uh one from the internet company and

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one from the city saying that uh power

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would be restored in in a few hours

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and the internet would be back up

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between four and five o'clock

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and that was in the middle of the

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i was freaking out i was freaking out

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but everything came back everything is

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fine you can follow me on twitter

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at j church radio

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twitter lit up over the weekend at j

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox uh a couple

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of things there was a bill nelson with

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this interview that he did i think with

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visitation to here on earth

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it was a pretty incredible interview

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that was done on october 19th university

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of virginia uh published it on their

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youtube channel on the 20th and i went

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back and watched the entire interview

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there was only 1500 views

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and i'm freaking out so i took it

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i put it out there on social media but i

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i think this was on saturday morning

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was it saturday or sunday and put that

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up on twitter and and i just watched

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everything unfold and uh pretty

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incredible pretty incredible statements

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by bill nelson i'll get to more on that

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in just a minute

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and uh and then i was sent uh from

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laurie wagner i hope she's listening

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right now

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um

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[Music]

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uh these three pictures from skinwalker

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ranch that were taken last night

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and i published those i don't know

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what's going on and looking at the three

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photographs it looks like lasers from

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the ground

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that's and especially in one of those

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pictures that's what it looks like

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and i'm thinking because they are

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filming a tv show up there right now

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maybe i don't know

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but maybe this is something that the

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production was doing from the ground and

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and they're shooting video they're doing

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the tv show and i don't know maybe

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they're making contact with something up

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there but

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you know i don't know i don't know i

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guess we're gonna have to wait until the

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series premieres and the new season

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but they certainly got their marketing

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dollar

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that was some free publicity uh coming

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from the sandbox

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and uh so i don't know i don't know

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anyway let's get to the breaking news

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blue origin boeing sierra space and

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several other partners

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announced today that they plan to build

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a commercial off-earth outpost space

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station

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called orbital reef which is scheduled

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to be up and running by the late 2020s

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orbital reefs envision customers include

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national governments

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private industry

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and space tourists

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project team members announced

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everything today now the outpost will be

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initially complement but eventually take

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the baton from

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the international space station the iss

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which is expected to be retired

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in 2028 to 2030.

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today's announcement comes just four

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days after nanoracks

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voyager space and lockheed martin unveil

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plans for their own private station

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called star lab

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and houston company axiom space had

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previously announced its intention to

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launch modules into the iss beginning in

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2024 they eventually detach and operate

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them as free flying commercial outposts

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wow

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big deal the first planet outside of our

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milky way galaxy

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may have been detected for the first

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time

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this result using nasa's chandra x-ray

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observatory opened up a new window to

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search for exoplanets at greater

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distances than ever before the possible

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exoplanet candidate is located in the

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spiral galaxy

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messier 51 otherwise known as m51 also

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called the whirlpool galaxy because of

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its distinctive profile

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now here's a tip for all of the

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astronomers of the world

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every star

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in the universe

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has a planet

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they do

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now go and find them

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name them

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you're welcome

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nasa

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is now targeting february 2022 for the

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launch of

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the sls

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the most powerful launch system ever the

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space launch system

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stacked with the agency's orion crew

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capsule the sls is 332 feet tall and

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currently sits at the kennedy space

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center in florida

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sls will launch the next generation of

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deep space operations including

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artemis missions

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on and around the moon

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it was initially slated to take off next

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month in november but has run behind

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schedule nasa said in a friday release

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that the integrated system is entering

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the final phase of preparations for an

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upcoming uncrewed flight test around the

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moon

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including a series of integrated tests

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this is the first rocket launch to the

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moon

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since apollo

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that's right

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now

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i'm going to leave you with this

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a private anonymous us collector

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has bought the fossilized remains of big

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john

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the largest triceratops dinosaur ever

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discovered

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he paid 7.7

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million dollars at a paris auction last

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thursday

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big john

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named after the owner of the land where

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the dinosaurs bones were found

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roamed modern-day south dakota

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more than 66 million years ago

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all right let's get the show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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katy perry

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is 36.

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man

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adam goldberg today is 50.

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i love adam

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and let's let's just go with his two

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best films

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dazed and confused he's amazing in that

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and saving private ryan

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oh

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that's one of the best death scenes

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[Laughter]

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ever

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the voice of bart simpson nancy

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cartwright today is 64.

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red hot chili pepper chad smith is

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59. judas priest guitar god glenn tipton

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today is 74.

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scorpions guitar god matthias jabs today

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is 65. i don't think anybody

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wore striped spandex

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better

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than matthias jabs i'm going on the

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record also guitarist robbie mcintosh

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today is 64. our dead guy's birthday

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today is

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helen reddy

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1941 to 2020 died at the age of 79

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helen was one of the greatest voices in

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music history during the 1970s she had

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huge international success especially in

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the united states where she placed 15

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singles 15

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on the top 40 of billboard's hot 100

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she made the top 10

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at

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times and three reach number one

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including her signature hit of course

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i am woman

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helen died on september 29 2020 here in

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los angeles at the age of 78 oh 79 78 79

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she suffered from addison's disease and

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dementia in her later years but no cause

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of death was given

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happy birthday helen ready on this day

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in history otd 1983 it went down

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the united states invades the small

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caribbean island of

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grenada

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they did it

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with 6 000 troops

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six thousand marines to be exact

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overthrown the marxist government there

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yeah

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fader fact

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every year okay now listen to me

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i i checked this out i personally vetted

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this i had heard about it in the past

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but here's your fader fact

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every year on good friday

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filipino catholic devotees

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are voluntarily non-lethally

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crucified

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that's right

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sterilized nails are driven through

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their hands and feet

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one man has been crucified

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33 times

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and that

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is your fate or fact go check out the

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pictures

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it's crazy

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crazy

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i would would you rather listen to an

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entire album of helen reddy's

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las vegas ears or chop off your little

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finger no man helen ready rocked

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brian you are so

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wrong

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closet crusher of the day katy perry

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yeah uh i'm i'm good with that

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i'm good with that all right now helen

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ready was cool man helen ready had pipes

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all right now um

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river moon coffee

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today because of its thunderstorm it's

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raining right now

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thunderstorms cold windy

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so today i started making

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that's a river moon coffee mocha

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oh my goodness gracious

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all right

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rivermoonwellness.com visit our amazon

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store it's right there the links are

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over at jimmychurchradio.com you can

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also go to the website and and get the

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best coffee in the world fade to black

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blood also get the game changer blend

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um this weekend

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you know i just moved into this uh house

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well i've been here now for

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for about three months

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and uh still unpacking and and doing

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things and i started to

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um

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fill up my shoe racks

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in the

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so i set up the shoe racks you know

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across the bottom of the closet floor

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and it's probably

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i mean the whole thing is probably

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uh the shoe rack itself is about 12 feet

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yeah i know it sounds pretentious but i

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got a lot of shoes

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so um

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and you know so i set up the shoe racks

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and

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started to fill up the bottom row anyway

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so um

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and i just kind of took a break and went

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and watched a movie i did something but

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i came back upstairs had to do something

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uh

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folding laundry or whatever right

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and i walked back into the walk-in

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and two pairs of shoes fell down

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and i look and i was like

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what is that all about now i posted

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pictures i shot a lot of video i haven't

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posted the video yet

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and and and the shock that i had when i

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walked in and saw those shoes on the

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floor

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i didn't know what was so i put the

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shoes back up

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i'm wondering what's going on i split

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and uh finished what i was doing and i

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and i walked back in this is uh

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this is about an hour later and i

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remember i i walked you know into the

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bedroom and i made the left hand turn

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into uh the bathroom where the walk-in

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closet is and i stopped and i went man

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those shoes better not have fallen down

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and i just kind of panicked right

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and i walked around kind of looking

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they fell down again

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and they're like in the middle of the

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floor too it's not like they just felt

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and and i stopped i took some pictures i

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shot a video i posted those pictures

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online put the shoes back up i went i

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got a ghost

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and i put the shoes back up and now i'm

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thinking i gotta i gotta i gotta run

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00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:40,080
some video i've i've got to capture this

572
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and uh this was saturday or friday night

573
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and i'm in bed it's friday night and i'm

574
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watching a movie and right as there's

575
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like this quiet spot i hear this

576
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oh my god you've got to be kidding me i

577
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go back up i go into the shoes fell down

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again by themselves

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and now i'm at two o'clock in the

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morning i'm shooting video i'm taking

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pictures i put the shoes back up

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um i go to bed i wake up in the morning

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it's eight o'clock

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and and now i'm back on the shoe thing

585
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and i walk back in they fell down again

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00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:16,799
so it was like four times maybe five

587
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times in about 12 hours

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and i'm kind of panicking

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um and i had all kinds of plans to set

590
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up cameras and i'm still gonna do it so

591
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anyway i moved the shoes to the second

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level

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i came back upstairs about an hour later

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walked in and they fell

595
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off the second the the lower rack but

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they didn't fall down

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they were just out and perfectly lined

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up i got pictures

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i went okay it's the shoes the shoes

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i don't have a ghost i had convinced

601
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,799
myself of that so i left his shoes where

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they were on the second level

603
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,200
none of the other shoes and there's 20

604
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30 pairs of shoes nothing else is moving

605
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,679
it's just these two pair all right

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so then

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i'm in the garage i'm unpacking boxes

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and i'm moving stuff back into the house

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i find some more shoes

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and uh i said okay all right so i put

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these aside i took those upstairs and i

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put those on the shoe rack and uh where

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the other two shoes were

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and i split this is now yesterday

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afternoon

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about an hour later two hours later i'm

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doing stuff around the house walked in

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like

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man and i i don't know what's every all

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the rest of the shoes and they're all

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um

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look i i collect adidas i like adidas

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they're all adidas they've all got the

624
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same souls they're made out of the same

625
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rubber i don't know

626
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none of the other shoes are moving

627
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:01,039
and it's just these down in the end and

628
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and i can't i can't figure it out so

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i'm convinced it's the shoes it's not a

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ghost

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but

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i've got plenty of video cameras i've

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got plenty i've got a gopro i've got two

634
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,440
sonys i've got plenty of stands i've got

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all kinds of memory cards i've got extra

636
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,840
batteries i'm gonna set up some video

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cameras i'm going to set them up in

638
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there

639
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:26,960
and and film this

640
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i just want to see them fall

641
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that's it i don't know if they're

642
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,679
getting up and doing a dance of some

643
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,360
ghost who's putting them on and walking

644
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around and then taking them off i i

645
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don't know

646
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:41,360
or are they just merely you know i i'm

647
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,559
going to capture this on film i've shot

648
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:47,200
four videos i've got about 30 pictures

649
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,559
that i have taken

650
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,039
i haven't caught it but it's been going

651
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,480
on i'm convinced it's just the shoes

652
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,320
it's not that big of a deal but i'm

653
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going to catch this crap on video i'm

654
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,480
going to watch this myself this is fade

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to black i am your host jimmy church it

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is halloween week that's my halloween

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week i've got a ghost in my house got a

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ghost

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in cassaday church our meals jimmy

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church tonight craig campobaso is here

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radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight craig

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campobaso is with us

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discussing his new book i've got it

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right here there it is

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you know what though everybody else is

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getting autographed copies

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i don't know hold on hold on let me

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double check no no mine's not

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autographed

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a little upset about this

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gotta make this gotta make this happen

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craig campobaso is with us

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multiple award-winning filmmaker emmy

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nominated casting director

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he was 15 when he started in the

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entertainment business his young acting

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career was off to a great start he

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landed his first national commercial for

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mcdonald's chicken sandwiches

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that's right and spoke his first line of

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donald dialogue to tuesday weld after

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graduating high school at the age of 17

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he went back to work behind the scenes

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on such blockbuster classics as frank

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herbert's dune directed by david lynch i

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talked about that earlier conan the

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destroyer and total recall he began his

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casting career on steven spielberg's

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amazing stories i've watched all of

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those by the way he received an emmy a

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nomination for outstanding casting for a

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series on david e kelly's picket fences

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craig's casting career spans three

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decades and he directed wrote and

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produced

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stranger at the pentagon we talked about

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that a few years ago when it was

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released which was adapted from a

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popular ufo book authored by

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dr frankie strange's after production

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the short film collected accolades in

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september 2014 it won best sci-fi film

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at the burbank international film

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festival

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selling out all 275 seats in 2015 it won

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a remy award for at the world fest

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houston international film festival for

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best sci-fi short he has appeared on

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many radio shows including coast to

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coast am and he's been a guest on open

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minds

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00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,200
with regina meredith beyond belief with

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george nori and he's also appeared on

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00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:35,359
ancient aliens i would like to welcome

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00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,400
back to

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fade to black the one and only craig

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campbell so craig good evening my man

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how you doing hey how are you jimmy it's

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00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,800
so good to be here it's so good to have

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you it's so good to have you back and

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00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:49,359
this is you know uh before i ask

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uh

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00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,200
the the opening question which is you

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00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,200
know what have you been up to i want the

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audience to know it's been a while since

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00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,560
craig has been on the show but we're

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always in touch and we're always talking

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and he's working with with all of my

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friends here in the community and it's

839
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,160
just one of those things i was like

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craig we got to get you back on the show

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00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,920
and and here you are tonight but what

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00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:12,079
have you been up to

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well first off um i have the publisher

844
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,400
send you your book so when i see you i

845
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,800
will sign up for you yeah right on

846
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,960
right i dig sign in books i think it's

847
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,440
really cool yeah we've got we've got

848
00:39:30,430 --> 00:39:27,680
your link up to get an autographed copy

849
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,440
of the book and uh you can head over to

850
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,320
jimmychurchradio.com and click on the

851
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,589
oh man i've been up to a whole lot of

852
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:40,320
stuff we're um

853
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:41,680
uh

854
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,160
now taking the book and creating a

855
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:46,240
documentary so we've been working on

856
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,440
that for

857
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:49,200
about six months

858
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,720
uh we've already interviewed probably 15

859
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,160
20 people

860
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,280
um you know ufo professionals so we're

861
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,040
looking at the documentary as an

862
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:01,920
extension of the book

863
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:05,440
where we can now get into

864
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:09,040
um hearing from the real live contactees

865
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,069
they allowed me to use in the book and

866
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,000
what happened in those contacts etc so

867
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,480
that uh interviewing

868
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:23,280
hybrids who say that they have either

869
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:26,880
one two or three different kinds of

870
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,560
uh alien dna in their system

871
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,240
and they talk about

872
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:35,599
how that happened and a lot of them are

873
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,319
you know totally different so so what

874
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,560
we're going to do in the documentary

875
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:42,240
besides hearing from all the

876
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:43,599
professionals

877
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:46,319
is bring all the extraterrestrials to

878
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,680
life through cgi

879
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:51,040
now

880
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:52,640
you also

881
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:55,599
uh have been working with daryl anka

882
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,599
and yes now listen listen i i i i i

883
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,680
well i called you but i also called

884
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,520
daryl straight away

885
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:06,560
and

886
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:10,400
this new film is fantastic

887
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,520
it's the casting in this film that is

888
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,720
unbelievably great

889
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,040
and and i said how did craig pull that

890
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,040
off this is my private conversation with

891
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:23,200
daryl you know away from you

892
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,720
and and his his reaction to that uh

893
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,240
privately to me

894
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:29,920
i hope i'm not giving away too much from

895
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,760
daryl is that too too many films get

896
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,240
made today without the recognition

897
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,720
of who is doing the casting

898
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,440
it it it is you know people enjoy the

899
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:43,520
they don't understand one of the most

900
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,200
important components

901
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:46,960
is the casting director and how that

902
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,040
gets done um so hats off to you i mean

903
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,599
it it was just a mind-blowing experience

904
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:55,920
and and to hear daryl go jimmy thank you

905
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,200
for recognizing that it was it was

906
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,359
you know he was the fifth beatle yeah

907
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:03,520
thank you for recognizing that because

908
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:07,200
we are the unsung heroes where finally

909
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,400
we were finally recognized oh maybe 10

910
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:13,440
years ago by the television academy

911
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,720
to receive well more than 10 years ago

912
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,280
uh maybe because i think

913
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,400
pick offenses was in the mid 90s so it

914
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,359
was a little before then but the

915
00:42:28,829 --> 00:42:27,599
like the motion picture academy is still

916
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,839
really not

917
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,680
recognizing casting directors for their

918
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,040
work they'll give they'll give an

919
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:35,839
academy award to somebody who does hair

920
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,960
but not the person who helps to

921
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,880
get those actors in there and a lot of

922
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,599
people don't realize

923
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:45,760
you are really what our job is

924
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,160
creatively is finding the right people

925
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,880
for the money that they have

926
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,200
and and finding the right people who

927
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,720
have the vibe

928
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,200
that goes along with that

929
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,160
and then uh working to achieve it but we

930
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,160
also have to do their deals we have to

931
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,640
get creative with all different kinds of

932
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:06,079
things so

933
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,040
um

934
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,359
i mean i love working with daryl i

935
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:11,200
started working with him on

936
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:14,720
his uh other film first contact

937
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,160
and uh so anyway daryl's in uh the et

938
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:20,800
almanac documentary as well hey he has

939
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,680
to be

940
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,200
yeah yeah

941
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,560
he's he's his own he's his own species

942
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:28,720
so um uh

943
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,359
i i don't i don't want let me talk about

944
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,560
alienated for for just a second because

945
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:37,119
this involves you as well well the movie

946
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:38,839
does but i'm talking about the subject

947
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,319
matter um but with alienated when you

948
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:44,560
look at the cast

949
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,319
um with uh with an independent film one

950
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,640
of the things that i think we we're

951
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,160
always used to

952
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,640
is going you know what they got you know

953
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,280
it's the camera it's the

954
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,079
it's somebody's brother is is coming in

955
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,640
they need to need somebody for this role

956
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,640
somebody's cousin somebody's friend you

957
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,400
know and you're just filling the slots

958
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,800
so you can make the film and i get that

959
00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:10,640
and we're all used to that

960
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:11,960
this film

961
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:15,280
everybody is acting

962
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,400
in this film i mean it is there isn't a

963
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:20,640
role in the film that isn't

964
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,560
uh uh not only acted but done with it

965
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,359
with the emotion and done correctly

966
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,119
and that's all great

967
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,440
but gracie lacy

968
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:33,599
oh my god right

969
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,200
i love her

970
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,200
i swear the minute she walked through

971
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:38,960
the door i was like this is the girl

972
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,599
this is it and i remember when i brought

973
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,720
her in for daryl and erica the minute

974
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,720
she walked out the door daryl looked at

975
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,280
me he goes shep she's it that's her

976
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,359
you know amazing

977
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,640
she uh

978
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,839
um

979
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:56,400
she was an alien

980
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:00,560
and the the thing is this is the deal

981
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,560
alien love story

982
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,480
okay all right

983
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,640
i'm really gonna have to be sold on this

984
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,920
right

985
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,000
i'm really gonna

986
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:12,640
and and she did just that

987
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,680
yeah i could absolutely see this

988
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,800
happening and and she

989
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:21,599
she was in that role she was in the role

990
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,119
she was man she she's great i i really

991
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,280
see her going places

992
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,599
i mean she's just as cute as a button

993
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,839
she can act she can she can do it all

994
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:33,839
she's unique

995
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:38,240
was talking about earlier it's like she

996
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,520
has that little extra substance

997
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,760
that was just right for the part yeah

998
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,720
and she wore that hat like a pro yeah

999
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,280
she did i want that hat i hope daryl has

1000
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,560
that hat i asked him i i said she better

1001
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,560
have taken it she better have stolen it

1002
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,079
uh from wardrobe

1003
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,240
because uh when she walked in that that

1004
00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:00,000
scene i think it was in uh in the

1005
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,280
restaurant right

1006
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,200
um right but when she walked in wearing

1007
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:06,400
that hat it was uh it was pretty cool so

1008
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:07,520
anyway

1009
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,839
this this this subject of aliens and et

1010
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,640
and ufos and contact and abductees and

1011
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,920
contactees

1012
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,480
um it's a fun subject i talk about it

1013
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,000
every night on the show

1014
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:22,160
it's it's certainly part of pop culture

1015
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,440
now it is it is grabbed this planet

1016
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,400
what got you into this did you did you

1017
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,200
have a a a childhood of

1018
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:33,359
of alien abduction did you have a crazy

1019
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,319
aunt or uncle what got you into this

1020
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:38,480
you know it's it's really interesting

1021
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,240
when i was uh when i was young and

1022
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:43,839
growing up

1023
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:47,280
i had experiences

1024
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,319
um where i would wake up in the middle

1025
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:53,119
of the night and i would see an angel

1026
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,240
right

1027
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,200
and the first time it happened i thought

1028
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,680
it was the spirit of either my mother

1029
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,160
father or my two sisters and i

1030
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,319
frantically ran in and i remember

1031
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,720
holding my hand like this over under

1032
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,560
their nostrils to see if they were

1033
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,800
breathing

1034
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:12,720
and then another time when i was around

1035
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,000
10 i was

1036
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:16,240
taking a bath and all of a sudden i

1037
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,280
looked into the nozzle

1038
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:22,240
and it was like somebody took my entire

1039
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,880
soul essence pulled it out drug it into

1040
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:27,040
the middle of the universe the universe

1041
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:31,599
opened up i felt what it was like on the

1042
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:35,119
uh on the inside spirit plane

1043
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,880
and all of a sudden

1044
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,040
all of the questions are

1045
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,440
who am i where did i come from all of

1046
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:44,160
those things ran through my ten-year-old

1047
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,200
head

1048
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,240
i was sucked back into my body

1049
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:50,800
and i just stared in that nozzle for a

1050
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,760
while

1051
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,520
and then

1052
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,240
i never i never spoke about these

1053
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:58,880
experiences with my parents it was like

1054
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,520
they were a race but from time to time i

1055
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:03,440
would recall them

1056
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:05,920
and then after i finished working on

1057
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:07,680
amazing stories

1058
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,400
i was 26 years old

1059
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:13,680
and i started having

1060
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:16,960
dream states with master teachers

1061
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:19,599
and they were universal master teachers

1062
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:22,960
and i was put through a two-year

1063
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,920
sort of waking progress of going from

1064
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,160
being totally asleep

1065
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,520
to being

1066
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:32,400
as awake as i can and part of that

1067
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:36,319
process was for me to start writing

1068
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,599
books

1069
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,800
like

1070
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:39,920
this

1071
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,720
and my and my other book set which is

1072
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:45,359
the autobiography of an extraterrestrial

1073
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:46,720
saga

1074
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,760
um it's a four-part book series i i'm

1075
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:52,079
working on uh book five now there'll be

1076
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,760
seven in total

1077
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:56,160
so basically those books are just chock

1078
00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:00,000
full of universal information and all

1079
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,599
kinds of stuff so

1080
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,160
they when they give me images i either

1081
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,319
hear it see it

1082
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:07,760
or i

1083
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:10,960
actually will astral travel there

1084
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:13,920
and actually experience it in the

1085
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,549
we've been talking about this a lot

1086
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,280
lately take me through

1087
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,599
uh i doubt that any of it is typical but

1088
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:25,839
uh take me through

1089
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,800
uh uh one of these experiences and how

1090
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,720
it goes down

1091
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,559
so

1092
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,559
for instance um

1093
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:36,400
you're you're asleep

1094
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,240
and then all of a sudden your soul

1095
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,880
is somewhere else and you

1096
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,599
when you wake up in the next and when

1097
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,480
you wake up in that environment

1098
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,960
it's a whole different experience than a

1099
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,160
dream

1100
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,960
it's like you know that it's like what i

1101
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,359
call a lucid dream

1102
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,839
because you actually wake up

1103
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,000
and you were actually there

1104
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,920
actually one of the master teachers said

1105
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,079
to me that the universe doesn't

1106
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:08,480
differentiate between

1107
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,599
um experience just in the physical it

1108
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:14,400
happens in the mental and the spiritual

1109
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:18,880
and that i was having these experiences

1110
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:22,160
with them in the spiritual realm right

1111
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:26,400
so this waking process started there and

1112
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,839
then they uh at one point they started

1113
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,359
feeding me

1114
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,000
a golden light which ballooned in my

1115
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,400
body and it was like all the cells in my

1116
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:38,640
body started waking up

1117
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,040
and it was like

1118
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,680
all of a sudden they the cells became

1119
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,680
sort of like time

1120
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:47,920
time remember contact with all the

1121
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,720
little pills the little

1122
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,440
beads inside yes it was like a time

1123
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:55,040
release

1124
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,319
for me

1125
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,280
to start waking up to

1126
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,760
all of the things and the wonders in the

1127
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,200
universe

1128
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,160
and so this was a two-year period and

1129
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:08,880
that's when i actually started writing

1130
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,839
the autobiography of extraterrestrial uh

1131
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:13,280
saga books

1132
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:16,319
was then and uh so

1133
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,280
it's it's like being there and then i

1134
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,440
started having the experience where when

1135
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,240
i was in my when i was walking around

1136
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:25,359
daily

1137
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:28,079
i was actually astral traveling at the

1138
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,079
same time and having sort of like this

1139
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,720
binary experience

1140
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:34,000
as well

1141
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:35,040
you know

1142
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,319
it's it it sounds unique except i would

1143
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,240
i would think that

1144
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:42,880
that is everybody that shops at gelson's

1145
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:45,839
on ventura boulevard

1146
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:54,390
i just had to say it i i just had to say

1147
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,119
it

1148
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,960
that's so funny

1149
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,800
i had to say it i had to say it and not

1150
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,559
just any girls since the one next to

1151
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:02,000
ralph's

1152
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:08,230
oh man but um

1153
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,240
now

1154
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:12,640
what about um

1155
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:16,480
have you had sightings and and and

1156
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:20,160
things as well to go along with this

1157
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:23,040
i well when i was going through this

1158
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,200
waking period i this is when i became

1159
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:30,319
really engrossed in wondering about

1160
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,040
life elsewhere so i started

1161
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,440
uh reading lots of spiritual books i

1162
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:38,160
lived at the bodhi tree i mean i i went

1163
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:41,440
through their ufo section um

1164
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,400
like lickety-split if there was a

1165
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:46,960
contact-e or somebody that was there or

1166
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,599
a representative of a contactee from

1167
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,440
around the world speaking at the bodhi

1168
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,319
tree i would go there i would go into

1169
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:56,720
private homes where there were

1170
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,480
giving talks and then i actually started

1171
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:02,960
throwing ufo parties where i would have

1172
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,240
a ufologist come to my house and back in

1173
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:08,960
the days of vhs and

1174
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,000
you know they pop in vhs and back then i

1175
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,680
had like a one bedroom apartment and i

1176
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:18,000
would uh literally there was a hundred

1177
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,520
people packed in

1178
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,280
my one bedroom apartment because

1179
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:23,200
everybody wanted to learn about it so

1180
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,640
much so

1181
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,400
so those were really fun i used to make

1182
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:29,599
giant that's a spaghetti and you know

1183
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,040
they would have spaghetti ufo parties so

1184
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,640
um but i got very interested in it then

1185
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:37,839
and

1186
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:43,200
started studying my my favorite thing

1187
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,960
was all of the the very early contactees

1188
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:48,880
because they were all human

1189
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:50,960
they were human

1190
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:53,920
beings from around the universe that

1191
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,720
lived in various uh in on the inside of

1192
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,640
various planets

1193
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:03,119
right right and as it was explained to

1194
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,920
me

1195
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,079
is that they don't live on the outside

1196
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:08,559
of planets because of the

1197
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,599
um

1198
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,920
you know the conditions in the universe

1199
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:14,559
and the sun and all of that how they

1200
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,200
stay young is they go into confined

1201
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:19,599
environments where they where they have

1202
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,880
resonation fields that actually keep

1203
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:24,559
their cells

1204
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,760
young and youthful so that's why they

1205
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:29,040
all look

1206
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,640
like they're 30 to 38 years old and if

1207
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:35,040
you go back to the two of the early

1208
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,839
contactees

1209
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:38,960
is that

1210
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:42,720
um salganda who was a venusian visited

1211
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,640
george van tassel and gave him

1212
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:49,200
the blueprints to build the integratron

1213
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,839
which was a cell

1214
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,720
rejuvenation chamber

1215
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,720
right right and

1216
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,720
uh and also

1217
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:58,400
um

1218
00:55:01,349 --> 00:55:00,079
uh

1219
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:01,359
who was a

1220
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:06,079
adamski they also you know as well so a

1221
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,680
lot of the early contactees they were

1222
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:10,319
bringing forth that information

1223
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,440
also

1224
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,880
for us

1225
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,720
and um

1226
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,240
you know so

1227
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:18,400
it was really amazing

1228
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:19,920
now um

1229
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,680
let's talk about that for a second

1230
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,040
because

1231
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:24,960
when you listen to

1232
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,319
and i'm i'm so thankful that a lot of uh

1233
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,040
georgia damski's early presentations

1234
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:32,799
that he did around southern california

1235
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,960
have all been preserved and and you can

1236
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:37,119
go and listen to these uh talks that he

1237
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,920
gave

1238
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,920
and his television interviews and things

1239
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:42,079
and and they're all there

1240
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,599
but one of the things that george talked

1241
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:48,160
to not only the integrotron but it was

1242
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:48,880
the

1243
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,440
to record time

1244
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,000
and and he built a time machine in in

1245
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:58,000
santa monica california and he's been

1246
00:56:02,710 --> 00:55:59,599
very forward about all of this

1247
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:02,720
information and george also

1248
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,000
uh described the interior of the craft

1249
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,400
the first time that he took his ride in

1250
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,799
it out there at giant rock and his

1251
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,680
description of the interior of this and

1252
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,680
the control panels and the displays and

1253
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:17,040
how it looked

1254
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:20,960
it did not fit the pattern craig of

1255
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,799
of what we knew about technology in 1950

1256
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:26,720
it just it didn't

1257
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,319
and it the what what george talked about

1258
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:32,960
seemed to me to be information that was

1259
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:35,599
genuine it wasn't it wasn't a

1260
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,119
terrestrial

1261
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:39,760
uh thing that he was trying to relate to

1262
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:42,079
everybody it seemed like it came from

1263
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,760
somewhere else

1264
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,240
it did yeah and he described the

1265
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,640
interior of the craft there whereas uh

1266
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,240
salgonda

1267
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,880
uh was about five six

1268
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,880
blonde short hair

1269
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:56,799
and uh a

1270
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,079
slim form the other gentlemen that were

1271
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:03,440
on the ship were very similar to him

1272
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:06,480
and that the interior walls were kind of

1273
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:10,559
like a mother of pearl kind of uh look

1274
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,640
which i've never heard in any of the

1275
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:14,160
descriptions

1276
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:15,440
of

1277
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,160
and that i i believe the control

1278
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,240
panel where they did it was sort of like

1279
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,119
geometrical shapes and different things

1280
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:29,680
like that which he had never seen now

1281
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,480
what fascinated george about this was is

1282
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,640
he was a pilot

1283
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,760
and

1284
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,160
you know he worked for howard hughes he

1285
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:40,960
uh you know he he came up

1286
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,520
with that so it was really fascinating

1287
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:45,119
for him to see it

1288
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:48,319
and his son-in-law daniel boone

1289
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:52,559
i also interviewed um when he was alive

1290
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,119
uh in in in his old age and he said that

1291
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:59,119
he witnessed it

1292
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,599
from where he lived which was right

1293
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:04,400
behind the integratron

1294
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:06,079
right yes so

1295
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:09,760
um because originally that was george's

1296
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,520
house

1297
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,839
right and then when george moved out

1298
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,599
when he passed and moved out of that

1299
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:18,000
house then daniel boone and his son

1300
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,960
matthew

1301
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:21,359
moved into that house so

1302
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:24,640
uh yeah yeah and to this day that whole

1303
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:26,480
area out there

1304
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:29,119
um joshua tree

1305
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,640
is

1306
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:31,839
just

1307
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,559
awash with sightings i have seen the

1308
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,040
craziest stuff some of the craziest

1309
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,880
sightings i've ever had

1310
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,280
were right there i think they they

1311
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:43,839
continue uh to this day

1312
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:46,960
uh george yeah george got lucky he got

1313
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,680
lucky with giant rock you know he liked

1314
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:51,520
the rock right

1315
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:52,319
he

1316
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,880
have his little airport um

1317
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:59,280
he wanted his wife's apple pies to be

1318
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,640
famous and

1319
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,960
and howard hughes is flying out there to

1320
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,880
hang out with them uh you know flying

1321
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:06,559
out from santa monica

1322
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,599
and all of this is is is fact you know

1323
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:11,920
it's it's part of history right um and

1324
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:14,640
then one day george

1325
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,760
felt compelled uh to walk outside and

1326
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:19,599
there was this craft right there next to

1327
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:22,160
giant rock and and everything started

1328
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:23,839
after that it's such an

1329
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,480
incredible incredible story let's take

1330
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,079
our break right here this is fade to

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00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,400
block our guest tonight craig campobaso

1332
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:32,400
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host jimmy church tonight craig

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campobaso is with us

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discussing his new book the

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extraterrestrial species almanac we're

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going to get into the book right now

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what a great week it's halloween week

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here on fade to black and uh not that

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not that uh this book has anything to do

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with halloween

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everyone can go with snake girl on the

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cover

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right there

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um

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the subtitle of the book you know a

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guide to uh gray's reptilians uh hybrids

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and nordics

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but it's it's not that simple is it

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everything is broken down

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um each species or race however you want

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to define it um

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multiple multiple reports and

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01:06:01,910 --> 01:05:59,520
and testimony out there of these species

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i want to jump into the grays

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uh first um certainly

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well because of whitley streeper

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probably um one of the most identifiable

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uh species and and faces out there

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um is the grays but

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the grades can be broken down into how

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many subgroups

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oh my god

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the uh thousands

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literally

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thousands

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i mean there there literally was a time

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um

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a woman who was a psychic

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we were in a room and all of a sudden

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she started describing the

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uh two of the master teachers that first

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came to me

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and then the whole room filled up she

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said with thousands of different looking

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type

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gray looking beans right so

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so again

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in describing all races including humans

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and greys and reptilians and nordics is

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that we have to remember to judge the

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individual and not the race right

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because there is always going to be a

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negative factor within

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uh with every within every race so

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anyway so there are so many different

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types of grays you know we have the the

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um

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essasani which are daryl anka which are

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uh 500 years in the future

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which are

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which bashar is actually daryl's future

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self who is teaching him and channeling

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through him

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here

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on earth

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right so the these are all very

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advanced beings and there are i believe

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seven different hybrids of them

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and each one is the next step in

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evolution and i think the last one

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is uh coming up soon so

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and then we have the grays that abduct

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most abduction scenarios uh people have

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described horrific things and then as

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they got further down in many years they

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they believed that it was

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uh it was a

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uh

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more of a meant to be thing that they

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were supposed to

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01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:38,880
give up their

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genetic materials and things like that

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what we really don't know

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is that

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grays especially with with their large

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eyes

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01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:54,799
we know that they can do what we call

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01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:57,040
sort of like um

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01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:00,719
uh telepathic hypnosis on someone right

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01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:03,279
we we know this because it's been talked

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01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:05,600
about in several things even in travis

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walton's right and i was just talking to

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01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:10,480
jen stein about this

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01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:13,759
is that they tried when he woke up on

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the ship

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and and he saw them and he stumbled and

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01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,279
pushed them away

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01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:23,839
they focused their eyes on him to take

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01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:26,719
control of his mind and he wouldn't lit

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01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,679
them so they left the room

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right so

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so this telepathic hypnosis

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is to keep people sort of

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01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:39,359
under their control for what they're

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01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,239
doing so do we really know the agendas

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01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:44,719
of everyone i think each

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01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:46,960
abductee

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01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:50,080
will have their own story to it and

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01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,640
those are those are the ones that every

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01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:54,880
you know everyone is telling i've heard

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01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,159
some people had horrific stories i mean

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01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,560
calvin parker for instance

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01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,719
the the the uh

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01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,000
evil

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01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:06,960
extraterrestrial woman did horrendous

1549
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:08,320
things to him

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01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:10,880
some so horrendous he will not talk

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01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:13,040
about them to this day

1552
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:14,159
now uh

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01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:19,280
we have um a couple of uh well many but

1554
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,480
a a couple of references that depict the

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01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,199
grays as one of two things

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01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:27,600
right um biological

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01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:30,480
this is who they are or the other one

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01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,920
which th

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01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:33,520
they may be

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01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:34,480
uh

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01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:37,760
more robotic or genetically engineered

1562
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:40,640
and they are just task masters

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01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:42,400
they're they're sent out they're the

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01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,480
ones doing the abductions

1565
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:47,520
and there isn't an emotional component

1566
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:51,600
to them that they are more robotic right

1567
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:54,480
that's right and and if you're

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01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:58,960
if you were a very smart race right and

1569
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:01,600
you wanted to go in and get genetic

1570
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,920
materials and that kind of stuff you

1571
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,000
would not want

1572
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,560
to be in harm's way

1573
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,320
doing it yourself

1574
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:12,400
so if you were smart enough to create

1575
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:15,600
biological entities and send them to do

1576
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,159
your own to do your work that's why some

1577
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,320
people when they see them they feel that

1578
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:22,400
they are soulless

1579
01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:25,679
right and then other other grays

1580
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:29,360
aren't and and from what what i

1581
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,600
understood in interviewing a lot of

1582
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:33,440
people for the book

1583
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,719
is that

1584
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:36,719
the good greys

1585
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:39,280
prefer not to be called

1586
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,159
grays they preferred to be called like

1587
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:44,560
because they're from zeta reticuli

1588
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:47,760
they prefer to be called zeta humans

1589
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:49,360
now uh and

1590
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,480
and continuing this uh there are tall

1591
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:55,199
grays and short grays as well right

1592
01:12:03,110 --> 01:11:56,800
that's right

1593
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,120
and and the thing that i think is most

1594
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:05,360
interesting is

1595
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,159
uh

1596
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:09,360
i believe that most of them

1597
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:13,600
uh have the giant human eyes underneath

1598
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:15,920
and that as we know that some of the

1599
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:17,120
races

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01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:20,080
have they put a lens in they sew a lens

1601
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,800
in

1602
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:23,360
because of the light it does affect them

1603
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:25,280
so that's why it looks like their eyes

1604
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,880
are black

1605
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:28,800
right right so

1606
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:33,360
so uh they have very very large eyes

1607
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:36,480
and um but i don't know if that's true

1608
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,600
for all of the different races that do

1609
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:42,000
look like gray is there some that are

1610
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:45,199
that are uh uh more sinister

1611
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:48,640
um more aggressive um

1612
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:51,920
in some abduction scenarios and then

1613
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:54,560
there's others that are benevolent

1614
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:55,600
well and

1615
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:57,760
we've heard both sides of that too as

1616
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:00,000
well right now right through your

1617
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:01,360
interviews

1618
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,400
um does it seem that

1619
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,360
the grays are doing

1620
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:09,679
most of the abductions we don't hear

1621
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,480
about you know mantis beings or or

1622
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,719
you know other is it

1623
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:16,800
through your interviews have you found

1624
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,679
that it's the grays that are that are

1625
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:21,440
abducting

1626
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:24,560
well there are some yeah there are some

1627
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,520
where grays are abducting but we don't

1628
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:29,679
know if they're benevolent or whatever

1629
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:31,760
because if you woke up on a table and

1630
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,560
you have never seen one before

1631
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:36,320
you would be terrified and they would

1632
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:39,840
put you back to sleep right sure but

1633
01:13:45,970 --> 01:13:43,280
sometimes there is a mantis that is

1634
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:45,980
actually seen in the background

1635
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,000
[Music]

1636
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,320
like they're observing

1637
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:52,480
right right so

1638
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:55,760
so we're we're not sure if

1639
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,880
then it because i've only heard a

1640
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:01,440
benevolent experiences

1641
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,239
with mantis and i did interview a mantis

1642
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:06,480
hybrid which was really interesting who

1643
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:10,239
actually did the language for us

1644
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,510
i learned a whole lot because

1645
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,440
all of the people that i have met

1646
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:19,440
throughout the years nobody really had a

1647
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,719
handle on the mantis beings now all of a

1648
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:24,560
sudden there are

1649
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,199
we're getting hybrids and people coming

1650
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:28,400
forward

1651
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:31,679
who actually have a lot more information

1652
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:35,360
and about who they are and and

1653
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:36,400
uh

1654
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:39,280
and how they act they say even though it

1655
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:40,800
looks like

1656
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,480
they are emotionless

1657
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,640
they do have emotions on the inside

1658
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,560
we're just not they're not able to

1659
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:49,040
express it the way we do they would

1660
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:50,960
express it more

1661
01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:54,960
telepathically did you did you say um a

1662
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:57,199
minute ago did you say that

1663
01:15:02,310 --> 01:14:59,920
you can deny access

1664
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:02,320
no okay all right

1665
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,719
with deny access to well i to to an

1666
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:07,120
abduction

1667
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,760
well if you didn't if you don't if

1668
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:11,600
you're being abducted and you don't want

1669
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:14,320
it to happen then you can

1670
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:17,120
as a sovereign being

1671
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,360
claim your sovereignty

1672
01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:21,440
and say that you do not want this to

1673
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:24,560
happen how do you do that bruce lee

1674
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:25,760
wow

1675
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,280
yeah well

1676
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,080
i've i've come across a lot of things

1677
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,800
even with uh children

1678
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,000
um

1679
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:36,640
that are that are little that they start

1680
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:38,320
getting the myth from the second they

1681
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:41,600
can point and talk they're seeing and

1682
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:42,800
and things

1683
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,400
sometimes they're seeing uh bad entities

1684
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:48,000
sometimes they're seeing

1685
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:52,080
uh enlightened beings um

1686
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:53,120
and

1687
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,159
so

1688
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:56,480
when i work with them i just you know i

1689
01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:00,159
say look you you have to claim it you as

1690
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,640
the mother because you or the father you

1691
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:04,239
have to claim it because this is your

1692
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,280
space

1693
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:07,120
and you have to say

1694
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,880
that you cannot do this to my child

1695
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,840
right

1696
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:13,679
and and that

1697
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,760
you uh so you claim your sovereignty i

1698
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:19,840
always say call in the whole angelic

1699
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:22,560
core of course bring in michael because

1700
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:24,320
he's the big guy

1701
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,199
and

1702
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:27,280
uh

1703
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:30,000
and i find that it does

1704
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,080
uh it will calm down for a lot of people

1705
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:37,040
the if they don't want to experience it

1706
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:38,000
right

1707
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:39,679
so um

1708
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:42,640
because sometimes it is terrifying

1709
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,120
uh to people i mean because i've been so

1710
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,000
open about it my whole life

1711
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:51,040
i talk to actors

1712
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:52,719
i know what actors have seen

1713
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:55,280
extraterrestrials

1714
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:57,199
some have seen the craft landing on

1715
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,360
their front yard

1716
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:02,080
or on their ranches or they had cattle

1717
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:03,679
mutilations

1718
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:04,800
um

1719
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,600
so

1720
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:07,040
it's

1721
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:09,040
you know um

1722
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:12,000
i mean one one actor even

1723
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,120
fought one in a bedroom she told me when

1724
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,520
it was trying to take her daughter now

1725
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:19,760
um

1726
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:24,640
have

1727
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:27,440
is there an example of

1728
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,560
like

1729
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,120
negativity when we say benevolent or

1730
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:33,679
benevolent that that's one thing

1731
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:38,880
but has has has a gray caused harm now i

1732
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:42,080
know a grade looks scary right scary

1733
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,320
right okay yeah i get that you're

1734
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:45,840
terrified

1735
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:48,080
but has has there been an act of

1736
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:51,600
violence from a gray

1737
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:54,320
i don't i have never heard of an act of

1738
01:18:00,790 --> 01:17:57,600
violence but i have seen

1739
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,800
some abductions gone very wrong

1740
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,719
there was a gentleman

1741
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:05,920
that came to my house in the 90s

1742
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,080
and he was abducted

1743
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,640
and he

1744
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:12,480
showed me

1745
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:16,080
he lifted up both eyelids and they had

1746
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:17,840
implanted

1747
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,199
a thing around the back of his eyeballs

1748
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:23,760
that went from here

1749
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,480
all the way around and he said and he

1750
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:29,040
was so freaked out because he said

1751
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:36,390
i'm like their camera because they put

1752
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,920
this camera

1753
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:39,280
thing in me

1754
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:40,480
and he

1755
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,000
he would have to go and have it

1756
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:44,239
surgically removed i mean can you

1757
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,239
imagine having your eyeballs popped out

1758
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:48,400
to have this thing taken out and we

1759
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:50,640
don't even know if they could do that

1760
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:53,440
so that was really kind of terrifying

1761
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:55,520
for me

1762
01:19:02,229 --> 01:18:58,880
to see that there was another time where

1763
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:02,239
there were metal prongs coming out of

1764
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:05,920
the roof of someone's mouth

1765
01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:08,560
which was a bad implant or whatever they

1766
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:11,600
put in you know

1767
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:14,800
that was kind of uh scary

1768
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,199
i think the experience alone is scary

1769
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,520
for a lot of people but since i've been

1770
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,120
doing the book i've been getting a lot

1771
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,080
more people coming forward

1772
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,840
with different races

1773
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,760
that they've seen that they were in

1774
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:31,199
contact with

1775
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:34,960
um some on you know some uh in the dream

1776
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,480
state some

1777
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,800
some astrally

1778
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:41,520
right and uh so

1779
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,480
so again i think it kind of boils down

1780
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,320
to the individual

1781
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:47,440
um

1782
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:48,560
and

1783
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:56,719
program that's going on is

1784
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,159
uh from what

1785
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:00,239
there are several different things

1786
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,679
so if a race decides to come to earth

1787
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:05,679
right like we know the tall grays have

1788
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,760
been here for a long time

1789
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,960
we know that

1790
01:20:11,590 --> 01:20:10,320
um

1791
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:11,600
i think

1792
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:13,360
in one of

1793
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,760
dr greer's uh documentaries that uh that

1794
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:19,280
the government

1795
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:20,719
has been

1796
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,000
that e.t presence on earth has

1797
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:26,400
known back at least 10 000 years and we

1798
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:28,639
know that from hieroglyphics

1799
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:32,639
and from especially down in mexico where

1800
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:33,840
all of the

1801
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:37,120
grays and their ships are

1802
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:40,800
uh drawn into rocks right right so

1803
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:41,679
um

1804
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:47,280
staying with the the this gray

1805
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:49,840
um abduction part

1806
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:51,520
um that

1807
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:54,639
there seems to be and i just want to

1808
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,880
know what uh what you've gathered

1809
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:59,040
through your interviews that there is a

1810
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:01,520
general lack of empathy

1811
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,320
right

1812
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:04,800
that there there isn't

1813
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,679
an emotional friendship bond being

1814
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:10,159
established at that moment

1815
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:14,400
but that the greys also try to calm you

1816
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:15,360
down

1817
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,920
if they if they detect that you're

1818
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:20,159
terrified or freaking out

1819
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,360
they will take measures to calm you down

1820
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:25,120
i don't know if that's empathetic or

1821
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,960
they're just trying to get the operation

1822
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:28,880
done right whatever well they're just

1823
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:32,159
trying to get the operation done and

1824
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,360
um

1825
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:36,000
you know i i think

1826
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,600
that

1827
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:40,000
they're here to do a job and

1828
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:41,360
it's really

1829
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,840
taking genetic materials and it's

1830
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:45,120
creating

1831
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,440
uh new races we've all heard that you

1832
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:49,679
know the one reason for

1833
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,400
certain grays was because their race was

1834
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:54,880
dying out and they needed genetic

1835
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:56,960
materials because they had cloned

1836
01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:59,920
themselves too many times they lost

1837
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:01,760
pretty much their soul they couldn't

1838
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:04,159
ascend anymore so they had to go back

1839
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:06,719
into the human matrix

1840
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:07,600
and

1841
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,800
they taking it unwillingly

1842
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,040
or not and then we hear the thing that

1843
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,600
goes back to eisenhower where there was

1844
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:21,920
a treaty signed and

1845
01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:24,639
and that they were allowed to abduct

1846
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:26,639
certain

1847
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:30,800
street people or people that were not

1848
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:35,040
pillars of society to do tests on

1849
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,560
but then

1850
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:38,639
they found out that they were abducting

1851
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:40,080
lots of people

1852
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:43,120
and that um i even heard one story that

1853
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,679
they they got one of the crafts one of

1854
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:47,520
their crashed ships

1855
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:51,280
and not only did they find a bunch of uh

1856
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:53,280
animal parts but they found a bunch of

1857
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:55,280
human parts as well

1858
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:59,440
now um which which takes us to this um

1859
01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:00,880
is it

1860
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:01,760
uh

1861
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,679
when we talk about you know cattle

1862
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:05,679
mutilations is one thing it's taking it

1863
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:09,679
to another level of of human mutilations

1864
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:13,760
um is it is it the grays doing this or

1865
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,639
is it the grays getting the victims the

1866
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:18,719
abductees onto the ship and then it's

1867
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:21,040
another race of beings

1868
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:24,239
that are conducting the experiments

1869
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,159
well how how i have heard it is that it

1870
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:29,760
is

1871
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,719
the grays doing the first part

1872
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,280
and then the really brilliant reptilians

1873
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:36,960
stepping in

1874
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:38,960
and doing the rest

1875
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:40,880
now um

1876
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:42,639
when

1877
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:46,000
milky way

1878
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:48,159
you know billion hundreds of billions of

1879
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,040
planets uh that are earth-like not not

1880
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:53,440
five not ten not a dozen

1881
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:54,159
but

1882
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:57,040
forty fifty or a hundred billion planets

1883
01:24:03,430 --> 01:23:59,679
certainly that would indicate

1884
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:03,440
multiple races of grays not just from

1885
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,239
one particular star system there must be

1886
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:08,320
tens of thousands of them tens of

1887
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,760
thousands and of humans as well

1888
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:13,920
i'm sure of everything that we've seen

1889
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:15,840
and and a lot of different things that

1890
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:17,440
we haven't seen

1891
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,800
you know allagash was ant-looking type

1892
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:22,719
creatures yeah yeah

1893
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:25,440
when you get into hybridization

1894
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:28,239
that when you have these tech gods

1895
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:30,320
that know how to do it they have

1896
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,000
mastered it they can take any dna from

1897
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,120
animals and humans and mix them all up

1898
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:39,920
and create a whole different species and

1899
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:42,880
they can program that species for

1900
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:46,719
to do their bidding if they are

1901
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,760
you know if they're nefarious and or

1902
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:52,080
looking to sort of take over certain

1903
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,600
things or

1904
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,600
did those amp beings

1905
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,199
get that way

1906
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,000
through genetics or

1907
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:01,920
was there a planet where they sort of

1908
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:04,560
came up on um

1909
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:05,679
i was

1910
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,159
i wanted to share some statistics

1911
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:09,760
because

1912
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:12,719
uh the alpha centaurian

1913
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:16,400
say that they know of 1 million

1914
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:19,679
19 000 races right

1915
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:20,800
um

1916
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,880
the urantia book says

1917
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:26,480
that

1918
01:25:28,990 --> 01:25:27,600
there are

1919
01:25:30,990 --> 01:25:29,000
5 trillion

1920
01:25:32,910 --> 01:25:31,000
342 billion

1921
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:32,920
482 million

1922
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:34,639
337

1923
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:41,510
worlds makes sense

1924
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,159
yeah it might even be a low number

1925
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,960
right yeah a low number exactly and of

1926
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,360
course those are growing you know those

1927
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,600
keep going because the universe keeps

1928
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,199
expanding and

1929
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:55,520
things become multi-dimensional and then

1930
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:57,840
that's just one fragment

1931
01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:00,239
you know we're in we're in this universe

1932
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:02,719
and then there are many other ovum

1933
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,520
universes within a super universe and

1934
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:07,920
that there are seven super universes and

1935
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:09,360
in each one

1936
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:12,480
there are supposedly 700 000 local

1937
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,679
universes like we're in a local universe

1938
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:16,800
which is

1939
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,000
ginormous now um before we head to the

1940
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,719
break uh yeah we're going to cover so

1941
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:25,360
much more tonight and i want to wrap up

1942
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:28,719
on the grays really quick um

1943
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,679
how

1944
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:32,880
what are the earliest reports of of

1945
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,120
gray's visiting earth

1946
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:37,440
i i don't think it started with uh betty

1947
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:40,480
and barney hill aleister crowley uh has

1948
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:42,960
his famous you know contact and

1949
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:46,480
illustration which that looks as as much

1950
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:47,760
of a gray

1951
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:50,639
as any reports that i have ever seen

1952
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,480
what are the earliest reports how long

1953
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:54,080
have the graves been here

1954
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:56,159
well the earliest reports they they do

1955
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,199
go back to ancient egypt

1956
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:01,679
and they go back to

1957
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,280
the aztecs

1958
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:05,840
uh and we know that through like i said

1959
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,320
hieroglyphics and through the uh

1960
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:10,000
everything that they recorded on the

1961
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,360
rocks and

1962
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,520
some and sometimes in their temples they

1963
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,280
would actually draw the actual

1964
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:17,520
spaceships and there were lots of

1965
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:19,920
different uh they would draw the grays

1966
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:21,040
as well

1967
01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:22,000
so

1968
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,560
i it makes us think we're the gray where

1969
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,480
the good grays coming at that time and

1970
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:28,000
helping them

1971
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,679
with technology

1972
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,600
for an upgrade

1973
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:32,560
right

1974
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:36,239
and or were they taking dna back then as

1975
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:39,600
well i mean i mean we we have no idea

1976
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:42,480
um now and remember betty and barney

1977
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:46,000
hill that really kind of wasn't a gray

1978
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:47,440
because

1979
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:50,480
it was more gecko-like

1980
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:52,239
right the eyes

1981
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:55,360
so it wasn't what we would consider a

1982
01:28:03,270 --> 01:27:59,440
gray and betty was very fond of junior

1983
01:28:04,709 --> 01:28:03,280
the examiner um and when she was

1984
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,719
regressed she

1985
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:06,800
you know she really was just talking to

1986
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:08,639
him normal about you know well where are

1987
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,719
you from and blah blah blah where barney

1988
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:12,320
was terrified

1989
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:13,360
so

1990
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:17,040
you know it's fascinating that they were

1991
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:19,760
just fascinated and wanted to

1992
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:23,199
uh just examine her and barney and just

1993
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,000
see where we were

1994
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:28,880
evolution-wise well the sculpture that

1995
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:30,560
uh betty made we got to take a break

1996
01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:32,719
here in just a second but the sculpture

1997
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:34,400
that she made

1998
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:37,040
um and she took around with her for many

1999
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:38,320
years

2000
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:41,679
that sculpture looks like the cover of

2001
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:42,960
communion

2002
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:46,080
and it looks very much like what uh

2003
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:47,920
aleister crowley

2004
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:50,880
had had drone uh had drawn you know

2005
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:53,600
probably three four decades before the

2006
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:55,120
hill encounter

2007
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:58,639
and but it it's the eyes that's not the

2008
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:00,960
the eyes aren't gray they're they're

2009
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:02,159
slit

2010
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:04,800
but they're more gecko-like

2011
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,199
and i had this conversation with uh

2012
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:08,880
kathleen martin

2013
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:09,679
so

2014
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:14,320
gray eyes

2015
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:17,679
now um uh one one last question

2016
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:20,400
are grays

2017
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:21,679
typically

2018
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,120
naked

2019
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:25,520
or or do they have uniforms

2020
01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:28,400
they have uniforms but all uniforms are

2021
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:30,480
very form-fitting they're like a second

2022
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:32,480
layer of skin

2023
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,199
and and what about sex

2024
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:37,360
are they asexual

2025
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:42,159
well some uh some have uh cups

2026
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,880
right so a male would have

2027
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:46,719
uh because they're really kind of like

2028
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:49,600
asexual right so like what we might

2029
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:53,440
consider a male would have spokes

2030
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,520
and the female would have the opposite

2031
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,239
spoke so it's sort of like

2032
01:30:01,990 --> 01:30:00,320
putting the cups together

2033
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:02,000
other races

2034
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:08,400
have a vagina and within the vagina they

2035
01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:15,910
and within the vagina they have a penis

2036
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,920
and they can

2037
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:19,199
either

2038
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,639
play

2039
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,400
both parts

2040
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:24,639
at the same time

2041
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:27,199
you know uh going uh

2042
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:29,440
i'm trying to find the right words

2043
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:32,080
pitching and catching yes pitching and

2044
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:35,679
catching exactly thank you and uh

2045
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:38,320
and and maybe alone too or they can

2046
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:40,880
pitch they can pitch at the same time

2047
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,960
too

2048
01:30:47,189 --> 01:30:44,960
so i wonder how they would identify

2049
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:47,199
themselves would they be they them or

2050
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:50,880
both i know right right yeah

2051
01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:53,040
it's fascinating it's fascinating and

2052
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,800
it's really fascinating you're gonna

2053
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,480
leave that right there this is fade to

2054
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,480
black i am your host jimmy church

2055
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tonight our guest craig campobaso we're

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talking about his new book i have it

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here the extraterrestrial species

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almanac get your own the links are at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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always on the edge of the hottest

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fader knots when you think about the

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headed do you wonder about the food

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supply i do

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disruptions in the food supply chain

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future of our country and where we're

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headed do you wonder about the food

2117
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:08,960
supply i do disruptions in the food

2118
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supply chain could be disastrous and

2119
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they usually occur with little warning

2120
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that's why the smartest thing you can do

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today is to stockpile emergency food

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water and other essentials i personally

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the only source my family trusts for our

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right now save 20 off a full four week

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supply of delicious meals that provide 2

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doesn't it especially now so go to

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2152
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2153
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2154
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2156
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[Music]

2157
01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:43,510
welcome back fade to black i am your

2158
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:46,719
host jimmy church man i need to a wd-40

2159
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,320
my mic arm did you hear that

2160
01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:52,159
our guest tonight craig campobaso more

2161
01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:54,080
with craig in just a minute i wanted to

2162
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:55,760
mention something

2163
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:56,560
uh

2164
01:37:02,229 --> 01:37:00,480
i found a new series it's not what you

2165
01:37:05,109 --> 01:37:02,239
think well if you're a fan of rick and

2166
01:37:08,470 --> 01:37:05,119
morty uh like i am there's a new series

2167
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:08,480
on netflix it's called inside job

2168
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:11,840
um cartoon adult animation all the potty

2169
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,080
language that you can muster

2170
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:16,320
uh every every bad word that you can

2171
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:17,760
think about is done in this but it's for

2172
01:37:22,790 --> 01:37:20,000
adults anyway it's called inside job and

2173
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:22,800
it's about an agency a company

2174
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,960
um that is

2175
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:25,840
uh

2176
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:27,600
spoiler alert

2177
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:29,760
is is controlling the world

2178
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:33,040
and it is absolutely wonderful it is

2179
01:37:40,310 --> 01:37:36,320
great i'm binging it now it's got a near

2180
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:40,320
perfect review rating it's 98 on rotten

2181
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:43,199
tomatoes 98

2182
01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:46,400
um nearly perfect stars perfect ratings

2183
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,760
uh from from everybody out there so i

2184
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:51,199
want you to check it out it's called

2185
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:53,199
inside job and i'm not going to give

2186
01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,199
away any more

2187
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:57,920
than that and we'll talk about

2188
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,320
uh more about it on fader night this

2189
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,639
week but uh i'm a big fan of this kind

2190
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:04,400
of stuff and everything that we talk

2191
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:08,400
about on fade to black is in this show

2192
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,880
you've got to check it out um

2193
01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:12,800
back to cr craig are you hip to inside

2194
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,800
job have you been watching it

2195
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:16,960
i haven't but i'm going to watch it now

2196
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:19,199
everything

2197
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:22,159
it's it's so funny uh there's uh

2198
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:23,199
uh

2199
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:28,800
represented here right and they're

2200
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:31,840
employees of this company um but anyway

2201
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:35,760
so uh the the core group of uh

2202
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:39,040
of of of workers there

2203
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:42,239
one of them uh controls the media

2204
01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:44,159
and and she comes in and she goes oh

2205
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,040
great

2206
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:48,239
um uh i just had to uh

2207
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:49,280
uh

2208
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:51,760
she said some i had to talk about food

2209
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,800
so the networks are are talking about

2210
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,040
food to get off of

2211
01:39:02,390 --> 01:38:59,920
this incident that just happened and so

2212
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,400
every and they talk about crop circles

2213
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:04,320
right we had to

2214
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:05,760
they go

2215
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:07,840
the director the company goes we had

2216
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:10,239
budget cuts crop circles this year are

2217
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,990
we couldn't afford anything else

2218
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,520
but anyway

2219
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:21,760
yeah yeah it's just awesome and it's

2220
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:23,920
called inside job

2221
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,080
and i am sure that the fader knots are

2222
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:28,800
popping up the links to it right now and

2223
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:31,760
uh go check it out on netflix okay next

2224
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:35,119
everybody's favorite species

2225
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:39,840
reptilians yes oh oh oh oh oh oh there's

2226
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:43,199
a whole episode of uh inside job

2227
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,480
dedicated to reptilians and and

2228
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:48,480
shape-shifting reptilians running the

2229
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:49,360
earth

2230
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:51,440
and uh it's it's pretty cool they reveal

2231
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,239
a couple of actors uh that are doing

2232
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:56,400
anyway anyway

2233
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:58,719
you've got to check out inside job

2234
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:01,440
reptilians now um

2235
01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:02,400
uh

2236
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:05,119
talking about benevolent and benevolent

2237
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:06,639
i want to actually want to head there

2238
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:07,600
first

2239
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:10,719
so uh reptilians freak me out

2240
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,360
yeah they do i'm i'm freaked out about

2241
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:15,840
snakes and alligators and

2242
01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:18,800
and and everything reptilian that just

2243
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,800
exist around me

2244
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:23,840
um i would assume out of the gate that

2245
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,760
we are talking about a benevolent evil

2246
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:29,600
fork-tongued

2247
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:33,040
bad situation is that the case or not

2248
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:34,159
well

2249
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,480
from a lot of people that i have

2250
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:38,639
interviewed um

2251
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:41,679
and some who claim to have reptilian

2252
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,960
dna

2253
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:43,920
right

2254
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:45,040
um

2255
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:46,639
theirs are

2256
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:47,920
either

2257
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:49,760
positive

2258
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:52,560
or some are negative

2259
01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:57,119
right what i find is that human

2260
01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:58,639
starseeds

2261
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:00,560
who have come and incarnated on the

2262
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:02,239
planet that are here to help raise

2263
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:03,840
consciousness

2264
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:06,480
from the time their children

2265
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:08,000
are

2266
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:12,239
plagued with reptilians

2267
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:15,440
getting into their mind and scaring them

2268
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:18,719
to knock them off their game

2269
01:41:23,350 --> 01:41:21,280
so that they're not advancing at the

2270
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:23,360
rate that they're supposed to advance to

2271
01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:25,679
help raise the consciousness so

2272
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:27,920
so right there that tells us that that

2273
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:29,760
they're going in and they're trying to

2274
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:31,360
dumb down

2275
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:33,440
everything and keep it dumbed down

2276
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:35,920
because if they keep it dumbed down then

2277
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:39,040
if it is true and they have infiltrated

2278
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:43,280
this world and are running it from afar

2279
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:48,070
there it is

2280
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,960
right

2281
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:49,840
so

2282
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:52,560
that's scary in itself when you think

2283
01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:55,760
about that but then when you think about

2284
01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:58,560
that there's really an angelic core that

2285
01:42:02,870 --> 01:41:59,760
there is

2286
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:02,880
that there are all of these incredibly

2287
01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:06,080
benevolent created beings

2288
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:08,560
um creative beings are beings that have

2289
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:10,639
the same powers

2290
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:14,480
um divine powers that christ had because

2291
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:17,199
every all of all creative beings are

2292
01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:20,960
christ not in the sense of religion but

2293
01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:24,400
in the sense of the universe right so if

2294
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:25,840
you think of it

2295
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:28,639
before christ was a christ there were

2296
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:30,719
christ in the universe yeah the christ

2297
01:42:33,910 --> 01:42:32,960
consciousness that christ consciousness

2298
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:33,920
so

2299
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:38,000
when people

2300
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:40,560
call me and they're wigging out over

2301
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,520
that is you know i i

2302
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,520
i just tell him you know you you have to

2303
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:47,920
look at it from the sense of and you can

2304
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,360
stop those kind of um

2305
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:53,600
uh

2306
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:57,119
abductions or or my i call them some

2307
01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:59,760
mind tricks because they're getting into

2308
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,320
your psyche into your mind and they're

2309
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:05,199
tricking it right and this is usually

2310
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:08,960
when people first really start to grow

2311
01:43:15,590 --> 01:43:12,320
and once they start to grow i mean i

2312
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,600
i've been in touch with uh um some very

2313
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:18,000
advanced children

2314
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:21,520
uh two are brothers and when i first met

2315
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:23,679
them they were like 12

2316
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:25,360
and 15.

2317
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:28,400
the 15 year old already spoke five star

2318
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:30,960
languages and was drawing star maps

2319
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:33,600
and the other one

2320
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:36,000
they would build things and say what

2321
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:38,159
they were going to build here on earth

2322
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:40,239
what they came here to earth to build

2323
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:41,679
and to do

2324
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,840
to help the planet

2325
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:46,159
get back to the way that it was supposed

2326
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:50,000
to be so when you see these amazing

2327
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:54,000
beings coming in right so strong

2328
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,360
right that's amazing i mean

2329
01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,159
who taught those kids those languages i

2330
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,920
mean i can't i don't know those

2331
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,000
languages but

2332
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,480
um i've seen so many videos

2333
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:09,119
and i've talked to a couple of them uh

2334
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:13,840
directly yeah and my mind is blown i i i

2335
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:16,880
can't i can't wrap my head around that

2336
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:18,880
i've i've really tried to figure it out

2337
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:21,600
craig and and i simply can't

2338
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,719
um with my conversations that i've had

2339
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:26,880
with different abductees

2340
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:30,719
um when when they describe uh being in

2341
01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:33,600
the presence of these uh different uh

2342
01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:35,360
species races

2343
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:36,719
that

2344
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:41,199
were the kind ones in the room

2345
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:43,040
and and i've i've

2346
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:45,040
that's kind of shocking to me because of

2347
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:46,800
the appearance and the description of

2348
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:49,360
reptilians are to me just plain and

2349
01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:51,119
simply intimidating

2350
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:54,719
but they've always been uh described as

2351
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:58,239
uh empathetic kind intelligent

2352
01:45:04,070 --> 01:44:59,119
um

2353
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:04,080
uh with with very uh forgiving eyes that

2354
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:05,840
look at you and you can feel their

2355
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:08,400
presence and there's a kindness there

2356
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:09,760
i it's it's

2357
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:12,639
in direct contrast to the reptilian

2358
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,600
image

2359
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:15,280
of what we're looking at that's right

2360
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:17,440
that's right and and when

2361
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:20,400
when you have a reptilian that is that

2362
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:23,840
right that is empathetic and all of that

2363
01:45:28,550 --> 01:45:25,520
just like

2364
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:28,560
in real life if we were to see

2365
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:31,360
a kind empathetic person

2366
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:32,800
we would feel

2367
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:35,280
warmth and good from them and that's

2368
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:36,400
what

2369
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:38,960
uh people who have

2370
01:45:44,229 --> 01:45:41,440
had good reptilian experiences

2371
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:44,239
experience i mean it's interesting i

2372
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:46,320
mean i even

2373
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:48,239
one of the stories was

2374
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,800
there was a a guy

2375
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:52,560
right who

2376
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:55,760
who is very connected to reptilians

2377
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:57,040
and

2378
01:46:02,950 --> 01:45:59,840
that evidently

2379
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:02,960
his reptilian counterpart that he left

2380
01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:05,600
behind before he came and incarnated

2381
01:46:08,470 --> 01:46:06,719
here

2382
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,480
would come

2383
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:10,560
and they would actually

2384
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:13,600
um have sex

2385
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:16,159
physically okay all right i mean so

2386
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:18,400
there's like even

2387
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:21,360
stranger things that are out there that

2388
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:22,639
i've heard

2389
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:25,840
of different things of what people have

2390
01:46:31,910 --> 01:46:28,800
and some some women

2391
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:31,920
some women who are incubators for

2392
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:34,960
reptilian uh hybrids

2393
01:46:40,149 --> 01:46:36,639
that they

2394
01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:40,159
see a a very they they feel in their

2395
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,239
dream state that they're having sex with

2396
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:44,159
a very handsome

2397
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:46,000
um

2398
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:47,440
male

2399
01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:51,440
and right before climax it's revealed

2400
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:52,840
that it's a

2401
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:56,800
reptilian and just as in gray

2402
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:00,880
uh as in gray abductions

2403
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,000
uh they're told that they're special

2404
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:06,480
right and so

2405
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:09,600
whether or not those their somine tricks

2406
01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:11,760
when they say you're special make them

2407
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:13,760
believe that they're special

2408
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,679
to continue doing that job or

2409
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:19,840
did those people have a soul contract

2410
01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:23,119
before they came in with that race

2411
01:47:26,709 --> 01:47:25,440
because they were previously a part of

2412
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:26,719
that race

2413
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:28,320
to do

2414
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:29,360
this

2415
01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:32,159
service to them so these are things that

2416
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:34,840
we don't know so they they

2417
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:38,159
shape-shift from matthew mcconaughey

2418
01:47:48,709 --> 01:47:45,910
right

2419
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:48,719
yes exactly exactly these are the

2420
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:51,360
stories that that i myself

2421
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,440
have heard wow so

2422
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:55,920
so but i i just want to say two things

2423
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:56,960
about

2424
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,000
hybrids right i we know that everyone

2425
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:02,400
thinks that this hybridization

2426
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:03,600
is

2427
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:12,159
scenario that i have heard

2428
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:13,280
that

2429
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:14,239
when

2430
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:18,560
a race wants to learn about another race

2431
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,840
and that they are advanced right

2432
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:24,239
that let's say if they came to earth and

2433
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:27,199
they set up shop underground

2434
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:29,679
right and um

2435
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:30,480
uh

2436
01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:31,360
and

2437
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:34,639
the only way for them to survive here

2438
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:38,960
and to learn about us is to become us

2439
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:40,800
and that's why

2440
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:43,199
they may come here for a thousand or ten

2441
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:45,679
thousand years to learn about us and so

2442
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,679
what they do is they start hybridization

2443
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:51,119
with us

2444
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:54,080
so that they can be more sustainable on

2445
01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:57,199
earth and that they can learn about who

2446
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:01,199
we are from the inside out as well as

2447
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,560
humans with the human dna so there was

2448
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:07,440
another uh you know there's another

2449
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:08,480
um

2450
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:10,880
hypothesis that's you know that's out

2451
01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:11,760
there

2452
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:12,840
and

2453
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:16,719
or is the hybridization program

2454
01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:18,320
to

2455
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:25,520
and more evolved for when the time

2456
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,520
that earth shifts over and that and

2457
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:31,360
because we're a hodgepodge of all

2458
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:34,400
different races anyway here

2459
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:35,840
that maybe

2460
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,080
in enlightenment will be all of these

2461
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:40,400
different races i mean there's so many

2462
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:43,520
scenarios that are out there so

2463
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:45,920
um all we can do is stay positive and

2464
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:48,560
and try and help those who are going

2465
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,800
through it through it

2466
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:53,360
so so if the shape shifting goes down

2467
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:55,199
with me

2468
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:56,960
i think can i request

2469
01:50:03,990 --> 01:49:59,280
selma hayek to come back

2470
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,430
okay

2471
01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:07,520
now what about

2472
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:10,159
what about i'm just saying i'm just i'm

2473
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:12,719
at that moment at that moment

2474
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,520
i need selma to come back by the way

2475
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:17,599
when we talked about the reproductive

2476
01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:19,679
things you know i just want you to know

2477
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:21,840
and and your listeners that that was

2478
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:24,050
bonus material that's not in the book

2479
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:26,560
[Laughter]

2480
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,599
now what about okay so now uh then we

2481
01:50:32,229 --> 01:50:31,119
have the

2482
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,239
uh

2483
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:33,840
i'm just going to say then we have the

2484
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:35,520
david ike uh

2485
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:37,520
scenario sure

2486
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:40,080
and which uh which by the way is episode

2487
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:41,920
two of inside job

2488
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,880
um is uh you know reptilians taking over

2489
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:47,119
the world we've got uh you know uh queen

2490
01:50:52,709 --> 01:50:50,400
elizabeth and we've got barack obama

2491
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,719
and and every other head of state you

2492
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:54,880
know are reptilian shape-shifters

2493
01:51:04,310 --> 01:51:02,550
i mean

2494
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:04,320
i i

2495
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:09,199
left there so terrified

2496
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:11,199
wait i i've never

2497
01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:13,840
literally i i remember leaving the santa

2498
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:17,520
monica civic auditorium just like like

2499
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:19,440
in fear

2500
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:23,199
right but is this is this a likely uh

2501
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:25,840
scenario that is is is playing out that

2502
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:28,960
reptilians um have

2503
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:32,239
uh infiltrated uh heads of state and

2504
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:34,239
countries going back hundreds of years

2505
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:36,800
and this is their own agenda

2506
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,960
uh that is playing out with people that

2507
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:40,719
you have interviewed

2508
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:42,800
have you had any indication that this is

2509
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:45,760
actually taking place

2510
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:48,159
not of anybody that i've interviewed but

2511
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:49,520
some people

2512
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:50,400
that

2513
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:54,320
were

2514
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:57,520
in either government positions or things

2515
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:02,470
the weirder

2516
01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:05,599
it sounds

2517
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:07,280
it's true

2518
01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:08,960
if it sounds

2519
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:10,159
so

2520
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:16,080
we just want to let you know that it's

2521
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:18,159
probably true

2522
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:19,360
now

2523
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:21,520
because there's so many there's so much

2524
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:23,920
strangeness out there i mean when you

2525
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:27,199
really i mean you've you've delved deep

2526
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:30,080
into this stuff and you know how much is

2527
01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:31,119
out there

2528
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:34,159
well you know way more than me now

2529
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:37,040
what i'm what i find uh so fascinating

2530
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:39,920
about this is that i have talked to so

2531
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:41,440
many people

2532
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:44,400
uh some that i know really well that

2533
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:47,280
have encountered uh people that they

2534
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:48,719
know

2535
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:51,520
that shape-shift in front of them

2536
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:53,679
which would indicate you don't know what

2537
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:56,080
you are walking past when you go down

2538
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:57,360
the street

2539
01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:59,119
yeah right

2540
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,080
yes

2541
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:02,320
yeah i've had a few people tell me that

2542
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:05,440
they saw uh just like standing in the

2543
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:08,400
line at a starbucks i saw uh the woman

2544
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:09,520
in front of

2545
01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,719
them uh my friend was a psychic and she

2546
01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:14,639
was just getting these not such good

2547
01:53:18,229 --> 01:53:16,159
vibes of the lady in front of her and

2548
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,239
the lady turned around in her eye shape

2549
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:20,719
shift to reptilian

2550
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,280
have you seen the video uh somebody's

2551
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:25,280
gonna pop this up in twitter have you

2552
01:53:27,669 --> 01:53:26,480
seen the video

2553
01:53:30,790 --> 01:53:27,679
of uh

2554
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:30,800
the russian talk show

2555
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:32,719
with the guests that

2556
01:53:37,990 --> 01:53:36,080
her eyes go reptilian when she blinks

2557
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:38,000
have you seen that no

2558
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:40,239
i want to see that now this isn't uh

2559
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:43,599
this isn't cgi this is an actual

2560
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:45,280
thing that happens

2561
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,599
and i don't know

2562
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:49,199
with her

2563
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,520
if she's just got some kind of crazy

2564
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:53,440
muscle control and she was born with

2565
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:55,599
this ability to change the shape of her

2566
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:58,800
pupils and her iris like that to go full

2567
01:54:03,589 --> 01:54:01,280
cat cat's eye reptilian

2568
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:03,599
right um or if there's something else

2569
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:06,400
you know she's got reptilian dna or or

2570
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:07,679
she's a

2571
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,119
an amazing hybrid but the video was real

2572
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:13,360
and it's pretty fascinating to see this

2573
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:15,760
play out on camera and to see

2574
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:18,000
uh the reactions from uh the two people

2575
01:54:21,589 --> 01:54:19,679
that are doing the interview it's

2576
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:21,599
incredible to see

2577
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:22,880
wow

2578
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:26,159
yeah i i've never seen it myself but uh

2579
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,520
i've just heard

2580
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:29,840
all of the various stories from you know

2581
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:33,199
people that it's happened to now um

2582
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,159
so

2583
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:36,800
how many different types

2584
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,400
of reptilians are there i've i've heard

2585
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:42,719
descriptions of human bodies reptilian

2586
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:45,599
head reptilian bodies full tail

2587
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:48,320
uh different colors different sizes 20

2588
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:49,760
feet tall

2589
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:54,320
just just we have everything

2590
01:55:01,109 --> 01:54:57,679
we have everything we have we have uh

2591
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,119
brown scales and scoots we have a

2592
01:55:05,790 --> 01:55:04,320
different like green and brown there are

2593
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,800
some that are

2594
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:07,440
multi-colorful

2595
01:55:11,109 --> 01:55:08,560
as well

2596
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,119
like a chameleon some are have like

2597
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,760
chameleon skin that can blend

2598
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:15,040
um

2599
01:55:19,109 --> 01:55:16,400
uh

2600
01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,119
so there's it's it's just endless if you

2601
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,360
can think of it it's out there what have

2602
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,520
you what have you encountered yourself

2603
01:55:29,709 --> 01:55:26,159
personally when it comes to reptilians

2604
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,719
i haven't encountered anything uh

2605
01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:32,080
reptilian-wise i mean there was a period

2606
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:33,679
of time

2607
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:34,880
where

2608
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:36,719
i was

2609
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:38,639
about to release

2610
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:41,360
my first book the autobiography of an

2611
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:44,159
extraterrestrial saga i am tehran which

2612
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,239
actually weirdly enough came out on 11

2613
01:55:48,629 --> 01:55:47,679
11 11

2614
01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:48,639
right

2615
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:52,400
and for the months leading up to that

2616
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:54,239
i was

2617
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:56,639
bombarded with

2618
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,189
dream states and upon waking

2619
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:05,760
uh when you're awake and your your eyes

2620
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:07,360
are still closed

2621
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:08,560
seeing

2622
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:11,679
uh reptilians and that kind of thing and

2623
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,159
i and i realized what it was is that it

2624
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:15,920
was there to

2625
01:56:19,589 --> 01:56:18,480
scare me to not release the book because

2626
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:19,599
the book

2627
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:22,480
is really about the benevolent universe

2628
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,040
and and what to expect through

2629
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:26,880
through a whole story through the lead

2630
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:30,560
character which whose name is tehran uh

2631
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:34,320
who's a commander right and so

2632
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:37,760
uh who's a pleiadian titan a nordic

2633
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,560
so

2634
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:39,679
um

2635
01:56:45,430 --> 01:56:42,400
so once but once you know the book came

2636
01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:45,440
out a lot of that just sort of subsided

2637
01:56:50,709 --> 01:56:48,639
and uh that kind of thing so

2638
01:56:52,870 --> 01:56:50,719
so there's a you know there's a lot of

2639
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:52,880
psychic attacks and things like that i

2640
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:55,280
went through way back when

2641
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:57,840
and a lot of people

2642
01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:00,719
um that are doing the work that i talked

2643
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:03,440
to i know one one woman

2644
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:05,119
who is

2645
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:08,639
constantly attacked by reptilians

2646
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:12,000
constantly attacked so the imagery is

2647
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:14,480
used as intimidation is that what you're

2648
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:16,320
suggesting which would make a lot of

2649
01:57:20,629 --> 01:57:17,440
sense

2650
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:20,639
yeah so just just to stand there and

2651
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:22,320
stare at you

2652
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:25,040
with such hatred and

2653
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:25,840
and

2654
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:27,599
intimidation

2655
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:29,119
um

2656
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:31,280
to scare you because it is frightening

2657
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:33,280
you know imagine waking up and your eyes

2658
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:34,960
are closed and all of a sudden you see

2659
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:36,719
this image in your head who is

2660
01:57:41,830 --> 01:57:38,880
projecting that image there right i'm

2661
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:41,840
not projecting it there right right

2662
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:43,920
it's being projected

2663
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:45,119
to

2664
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,480
because

2665
01:57:58,550 --> 01:57:55,599
i mean it was many many years of putting

2666
01:58:01,030 --> 01:57:58,560
together and working with

2667
01:58:01,910 --> 01:58:01,040
uh these master teachers

2668
01:58:04,390 --> 01:58:01,920
and

2669
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:04,400
all of that you know so

2670
01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:09,199
it um uh i mean those times were

2671
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:12,480
i i remember it but i just kept moving

2672
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:13,840
forward and

2673
01:58:19,270 --> 01:58:16,000
uh like everyone else

2674
01:58:22,149 --> 01:58:19,280
you know who's doing it if et does a big

2675
01:58:24,550 --> 01:58:22,159
reveal here depending on which which

2676
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:24,560
race it is of course but right if et

2677
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:27,119
does a big reveal are they going to have

2678
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:28,560
to

2679
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:31,520
hide their real selves

2680
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:33,280
you know to keep us from freaking out

2681
01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:35,920
would they just appear as humans

2682
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:37,760
well humans

2683
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:41,040
humans would just come as themselves

2684
01:58:45,350 --> 01:58:43,440
right no but i mean reptilians if

2685
01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:45,360
reptilians step off of the ship they

2686
01:58:48,310 --> 01:58:46,159
can't

2687
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:48,320
reveal themselves to the planet as

2688
01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:49,840
reptilians

2689
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:52,239
that's going to be a bad scene if it if

2690
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:55,920
it was a benevolent reveal i would i

2691
01:59:05,750 --> 01:58:57,119
would

2692
01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:05,760
be slowly integrated

2693
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:07,360
into

2694
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:08,880
society

2695
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:11,679
as people come to accept more and more

2696
01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:13,520
and more and learn about all of the

2697
01:59:19,589 --> 01:59:16,320
different races out there in the

2698
01:59:22,070 --> 01:59:19,599
universe right like like this book i i

2699
01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:22,080
didn't come up with the idea for it my

2700
01:59:26,950 --> 01:59:25,040
book agent called me in early 2019 and

2701
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:26,960
he said i got a great idea for a book

2702
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,239
and i got the i got the uh name uh i got

2703
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:32,159
the name of it the extraterrestrial

2704
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:34,960
species almanac he goes you're the man

2705
01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:37,119
to write that book because he knew you

2706
01:59:42,629 --> 01:59:39,119
know he'd read all my other books of all

2707
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:42,639
the races and everything and all of uh

2708
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:45,040
all the years that i'd studied all the

2709
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:48,239
contact d cases who were meeting face to

2710
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:51,760
face with all these extraterrestrials so

2711
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:54,800
so um anyway i said yeah so i did a

2712
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:57,360
proposal and he sold the book in four

2713
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:58,719
days

2714
02:00:02,470 --> 02:00:00,400
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2715
02:00:03,910 --> 02:00:02,480
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2716
02:00:05,149 --> 02:00:03,920
talking about his new book it's right

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here the

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02:00:10,709 --> 02:00:08,400
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2799
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you wanna know a secret

2800
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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

2801
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:08,880
serious

2802
02:04:12,470 --> 02:04:11,040
i couldn't stay sane without pawn mr

2803
02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:12,480
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2804
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2805
02:04:26,990 --> 02:04:23,189
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2806
02:04:40,709 --> 02:04:27,000
on the game changer radio network

2807
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,719
[Music]

2808
02:04:44,069 --> 02:04:42,800
welcome back fade to black i am your

2809
02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:44,079
host jimmy church tonight craig

2810
02:04:50,830 --> 02:04:46,719
campobaso is with us

2811
02:04:53,750 --> 02:04:50,840
tomorrow night hollywood hollywood

2812
02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:53,760
halloween halloween ghost stories

2813
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:56,560
hollywood ghost stories uh with uh jim

2814
02:04:59,030 --> 02:04:58,159
harold and then wednesday night of

2815
02:05:02,149 --> 02:04:59,040
course

2816
02:05:05,109 --> 02:05:02,159
is our eighth annual halloween special

2817
02:05:06,950 --> 02:05:05,119
with shaw the loon witch

2818
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:06,960
thursday night is a special fader night

2819
02:05:09,910 --> 02:05:08,639
with race hobbs he's going to be joining

2820
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:09,920
me on the show of course we're going to

2821
02:05:13,430 --> 02:05:11,360
be taking phone calls we're going to be

2822
02:05:17,030 --> 02:05:13,440
doing all of that it is fader night but

2823
02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:17,040
he's here to announce the on x network

2824
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:19,440
and that is our week uh tonight craig

2825
02:05:24,550 --> 02:05:22,000
campobaso is with us we're discussing

2826
02:05:28,149 --> 02:05:24,560
his new book it is the extraterrestrial

2827
02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:28,159
species almanac it is packed everything

2828
02:05:33,030 --> 02:05:30,560
uh illustrations and this is

2829
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:33,040
um uh something that i brought up with

2830
02:05:37,109 --> 02:05:35,360
uh craig at the beginning of the show

2831
02:05:40,470 --> 02:05:37,119
it's very simple to say uh gray's

2832
02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:40,480
reptilians nordics and hybrids uh no

2833
02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:43,199
there is so much more to discuss than

2834
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:46,239
just that because each species each race

2835
02:05:51,270 --> 02:05:48,400
has got probably

2836
02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:51,280
an infinite amount of versions

2837
02:05:57,589 --> 02:05:54,880
of a thing craig if you and i

2838
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:57,599
if you and i uh you and i look nothing

2839
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:58,560
alike

2840
02:06:01,270 --> 02:05:59,760
right

2841
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:01,280
we're both human

2842
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:03,360
but if you and i took a bunch of our

2843
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:05,840
friends right we grabbed you know laurie

2844
02:06:10,149 --> 02:06:07,199
wagner and

2845
02:06:13,030 --> 02:06:10,159
and uh yvonne smith and you know and we

2846
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:13,040
we just jet out uh to a planet and step

2847
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:14,960
off the ship they're gonna think that

2848
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:16,880
we're five different species

2849
02:06:25,750 --> 02:06:17,760
right

2850
02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:25,760
be the same thing and now when when it

2851
02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:28,560
comes to nordics um

2852
02:06:33,189 --> 02:06:31,360
well okay let's let's stop right there

2853
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:33,199
how many

2854
02:06:39,510 --> 02:06:37,360
different versions of nordics uh uh have

2855
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:39,520
when you're when you're doing interviews

2856
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:42,800
it's just not one typical nordic it's

2857
02:06:47,270 --> 02:06:44,480
it's well

2858
02:06:49,350 --> 02:06:47,280
it goes back to the supposedly to the

2859
02:06:52,629 --> 02:06:49,360
very beginning of the universe where the

2860
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:52,639
nordics uh came out of lyra or lyra

2861
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:54,719
however you want to pronounce it

2862
02:06:59,030 --> 02:06:56,480
and then when

2863
02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:59,040
um and then they went out into

2864
02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:01,599
settlements into vega

2865
02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:03,440
the pleiades

2866
02:07:06,310 --> 02:07:05,119
sirius

2867
02:07:10,830 --> 02:07:06,320
um

2868
02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:10,840
and kept sort of going out so everything

2869
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:13,840
is sort of a

2870
02:07:16,310 --> 02:07:15,199
um

2871
02:07:17,589 --> 02:07:16,320
evolutional

2872
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:17,599
[Music]

2873
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:20,960
time for these beings and then skin

2874
02:07:25,510 --> 02:07:23,199
colors and things like that can also

2875
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:25,520
change dependent on

2876
02:07:30,229 --> 02:07:28,079
the velocity of the suns that some

2877
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:30,239
planets have a different sun so this is

2878
02:07:37,350 --> 02:07:33,280
where we get a lot of the pigmentations

2879
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:37,360
is there an etymology to nordic

2880
02:07:40,709 --> 02:07:38,320
um

2881
02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:40,719
i think uh uh

2882
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:43,760
i think what we think of nordics is if

2883
02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:46,159
we go back to the mighty thor we go back

2884
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:49,040
to the sort of norse gods and

2885
02:07:55,430 --> 02:07:52,400
and things of that nature and

2886
02:07:58,149 --> 02:07:55,440
and you know we have uh valiant thor

2887
02:07:59,510 --> 02:07:58,159
right that we all know that story uh

2888
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:59,520
right behind me

2889
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:01,280
and um

2890
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:04,719
uh you know who came here and he looks

2891
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:06,880
very nordic as well

2892
02:08:12,470 --> 02:08:09,440
um so

2893
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,480
but nordics usually have a different

2894
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:14,719
look to them because they're tall

2895
02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,480
a lot of nordics are at least seven feet

2896
02:08:21,270 --> 02:08:20,159
or taller

2897
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:21,280
um

2898
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,159
and and some of the women can be even

2899
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:26,639
taller than the men or they can be you

2900
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:29,440
know it's just like here all the sizes

2901
02:08:31,669 --> 02:08:30,560
sort of

2902
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:31,679
uh

2903
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:35,040
go up and down dependent on who

2904
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:40,870
but a lot of those beings too

2905
02:08:46,709 --> 02:08:44,079
uh are in the fourth dimension

2906
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:46,719
and can still travel into

2907
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:49,679
this dimension right now what's

2908
02:08:55,750 --> 02:08:52,320
interesting is if a soul has sort of

2909
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:55,760
progressed through all the dimensions

2910
02:08:59,589 --> 02:08:57,040
they can

2911
02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:59,599
digress and go back and step down and go

2912
02:09:03,669 --> 02:09:00,960
back in

2913
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,679
and do things and sometimes even when

2914
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:05,040
they become

2915
02:09:09,270 --> 02:09:07,520
a little bit older

2916
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:09,280
i mean an older soul like let's say if

2917
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:11,440
they're in the 12th dimension and they

2918
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:13,760
want to come back to the third

2919
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:17,280
to help a world or a planet they can

2920
02:09:21,669 --> 02:09:19,520
shave off a part of their soul

2921
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:21,679
and they can incarnate

2922
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,520
into that planet

2923
02:09:28,149 --> 02:09:25,360
with that portion of their soul and then

2924
02:09:31,350 --> 02:09:28,159
they can look after that soul

2925
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:31,360
because it is them to help raise it to

2926
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:32,719
help do

2927
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:35,520
what they want to do for that planet

2928
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,440
it's similar to

2929
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,320
the starseed program that comes out of

2930
02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:42,480
melchizedek and the university of

2931
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:45,679
melchizedek and the mira system so

2932
02:09:51,589 --> 02:09:48,320
so nordics really uh and that yeah just

2933
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:51,599
like all races there's good and bad

2934
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:53,840
right there's um

2935
02:10:02,069 --> 02:09:57,599
there's offshoots there's renegades um

2936
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:02,079
that just don't believe in um

2937
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:03,199
being

2938
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:04,639
unified

2939
02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:07,679
in in mind body and spirit with your

2940
02:10:12,310 --> 02:10:10,159
fellow beings and what's but what's

2941
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:12,320
unique and what's beautiful about being

2942
02:10:17,109 --> 02:10:14,560
unified is

2943
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:17,119
if we were unified and i was sharing a

2944
02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:20,800
story with you we would be telepathic so

2945
02:10:24,910 --> 02:10:23,280
we could either voice it or we could do

2946
02:10:26,629 --> 02:10:24,920
it

2947
02:10:29,270 --> 02:10:26,639
telepathically

2948
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:29,280
but what i would do at the same time is

2949
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:32,159
i would share my feeling body

2950
02:10:36,990 --> 02:10:33,440
with you

2951
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:37,000
and you would feel and experience what i

2952
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:41,199
experienced exactly how i experienced it

2953
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:42,960
so now you

2954
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:46,480
have the full sensory perception

2955
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:47,520
of

2956
02:10:52,149 --> 02:10:51,040
what my experience was and and you

2957
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,159
now

2958
02:10:55,270 --> 02:10:54,239
feel

2959
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:55,280
more

2960
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:56,800
compassionate

2961
02:11:02,470 --> 02:10:59,360
towards my experience because you got to

2962
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:02,480
experience it and you now

2963
02:11:07,589 --> 02:11:05,199
have that little bit of an upgrade from

2964
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:07,599
that experience and if you were to share

2965
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:08,639
with me

2966
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:09,760
it would be

2967
02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:12,800
the same thing so what's beautiful about

2968
02:11:19,109 --> 02:11:16,000
being telepathic is that there

2969
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:19,119
are no secrets in a soul

2970
02:11:25,030 --> 02:11:20,079
and

2971
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:25,040
it's interesting because when uh uh dr

2972
02:11:29,510 --> 02:11:27,199
frank talked about valiant thor when

2973
02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:29,520
valium thor looked at me

2974
02:11:34,069 --> 02:11:32,400
he could look he said he looked so deep

2975
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:34,079
into my soul

2976
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:36,000
it scared me because i didn't want him

2977
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:39,119
to know my secrets but then i realized

2978
02:11:43,510 --> 02:11:40,880
that it didn't matter he loved me for

2979
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:43,520
who i was no matter who i was

2980
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:46,159
right and august roberts who took the

2981
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:48,960
photographs of valiant thor had the same

2982
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:51,520
experience as well

2983
02:11:55,510 --> 02:11:52,560
so

2984
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:55,520
and another man who had interaction with

2985
02:12:01,830 --> 02:11:59,119
a created being that i that i spoke with

2986
02:12:04,470 --> 02:12:01,840
he had the same experience with that

2987
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:04,480
created being who came and taught him

2988
02:12:10,069 --> 02:12:07,360
for a span of about eight months in 44

2989
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:10,079
different sessions he came to just teach

2990
02:12:13,990 --> 02:12:12,880
him all about the universe and

2991
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:14,000
um

2992
02:12:19,750 --> 02:12:16,800
uh when he was a young man he's now in

2993
02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:19,760
his 70s and he's preferred never to come

2994
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:22,560
out and talk about it um because he just

2995
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:24,880
feels that the these were

2996
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:26,639
those were his

2997
02:12:32,950 --> 02:12:28,960
that that was personally for him and for

2998
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:32,960
his soul learning now is there a case

2999
02:12:38,870 --> 02:12:35,280
you know we've heard so much about this

3000
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:38,880
uh of nordics among us

3001
02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,599
nordics walking down the street they are

3002
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:43,599
here on this planet

3003
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:46,800
and you have to look twice to recognize

3004
02:12:51,589 --> 02:12:49,040
them if they are

3005
02:12:53,510 --> 02:12:51,599
seven foot tall they would stand out

3006
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:53,520
but are there noises

3007
02:12:59,510 --> 02:12:56,320
are there truly nordics among us like

3008
02:13:01,350 --> 02:12:59,520
right now in the millions yes yeah well

3009
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,360
i don't think that there's millions of

3010
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:03,840
them here but they're definitely nordics

3011
02:13:08,390 --> 02:13:05,280
here that are

3012
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,400
that would be more along six foot

3013
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:11,040
maybe you know to six foot four six foot

3014
02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:14,639
five um i know in my life there were

3015
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:18,400
twice where i saw somebody and i knew

3016
02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:19,760
that they

3017
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,560
stepped off of a craft i just felt it in

3018
02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:24,719
my bone it was just the way they looked

3019
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:27,040
and the way that they looked at me

3020
02:13:32,069 --> 02:13:28,719
and

3021
02:13:33,910 --> 02:13:32,079
that kind of thing it was i i mean it

3022
02:13:36,470 --> 02:13:33,920
was such an experience i can't even

3023
02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:36,480
describe and it's like they knew that i

3024
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:37,760
knew

3025
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:38,880
right

3026
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:39,760
and

3027
02:13:43,030 --> 02:13:40,719
um

3028
02:13:45,030 --> 02:13:43,040
and went about their day and gave me a

3029
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:45,040
little smile like

3030
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:47,599
you recognized it and

3031
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:49,840
you know that kind of thing i i even

3032
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:52,079
captured a picture of two of them

3033
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:55,840
um in a restaurant in sedona and i i

3034
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:58,000
recently remembered it it was during the

3035
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:00,320
second harmonic convergence and it was a

3036
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:03,199
nordic man he had long blonde hair

3037
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:05,040
to about here

3038
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:06,560
and

3039
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:10,320
at one table

3040
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:13,199
sitting outside it was like on a verand

3041
02:14:18,390 --> 02:14:16,159
of veranda overlooking sedona and then

3042
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:18,400
him and this other girl

3043
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:19,599
um

3044
02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:20,400
and

3045
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,760
um they were very pleiadian like if i

3046
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:25,520
were to categorize them i would say that

3047
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:28,159
they were pleiadian that's exactly what

3048
02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:30,320
i immediately thought

3049
02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:33,040
and i had my camera and i was like i am

3050
02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:34,800
not going to miss this opportunity of

3051
02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:36,480
photographing them

3052
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:37,599
and

3053
02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:38,400
so

3054
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:41,440
i got up and i positioned my friends

3055
02:14:46,149 --> 02:14:43,679
this way so i could shoot over their

3056
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:46,159
heads and get their pictures

3057
02:14:51,669 --> 02:14:49,280
and right when i did it i could feel her

3058
02:14:54,470 --> 02:14:51,679
energy try to

3059
02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:54,480
ruin the film and my camera

3060
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:56,800
and i said no please don't

3061
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,719
and then she stopped so i was able to

3062
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,520
get a couple of photos the guy's feet

3063
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:03,599
were huge i mean they were just

3064
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:06,159
ginormous and

3065
02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:08,320
when they left they couldn't get she he

3066
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:10,159
was having a great time she was

3067
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:11,920
extremely nervous

3068
02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:13,119
and

3069
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:16,079
um he was the one who was eating

3070
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:18,800
and she she didn't eat

3071
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:21,280
but she couldn't get him out of there

3072
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:24,159
faster and when they left they got on a

3073
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:27,199
motorcycle and that was a sure tale sign

3074
02:15:31,510 --> 02:15:28,239
for me

3075
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:31,520
because they usually will ride a bike if

3076
02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:34,000
their craft is way out in the desert or

3077
02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:37,040
somewhere remotely they will they will

3078
02:15:41,589 --> 02:15:39,679
use a motorbike to travel

3079
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:41,599
i think it was fabio

3080
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:47,360
i went i went to fabio's house

3081
02:15:52,629 --> 02:15:50,800
a few times i hope he's listening um his

3082
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:52,639
house in beverly hills

3083
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:55,440
top to bottom every room ginormous

3084
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:56,960
beautiful home

3085
02:16:00,310 --> 02:15:58,079
full

3086
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:00,320
of motorcycles

3087
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:03,280
oh my god every room you walked in the

3088
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,320
hallways the kitchen

3089
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:08,560
there were hundreds

3090
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,880
inside the house he was uh he was a

3091
02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:13,040
motorcycle hoarder

3092
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,400
it could be its own tv show um so it's

3093
02:16:20,629 --> 02:16:18,480
confirmation fabio

3094
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:20,639
is an obvious

3095
02:16:27,189 --> 02:16:24,880
yeah my my casting partner joy todd was

3096
02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:27,199
uh i think she had cast him in something

3097
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:29,119
and one day we're casting a movie down

3098
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,000
by mgm and and we're in a restaurant and

3099
02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:34,240
fabio was over there so we went over and

3100
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,359
said hello and and that kind of thing so

3101
02:16:42,070 --> 02:16:39,679
they they knew each other very well was

3102
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:42,080
the restaurant was the restaurant chin

3103
02:16:45,750 --> 02:16:43,439
chin

3104
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:45,760
it wasn't chen chen okay no it was it

3105
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:48,399
was over uh by um

3106
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,960
culver studios okay he loves chin chin

3107
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:52,880
i've eaten there with him yeah that's

3108
02:16:56,709 --> 02:16:53,599
good

3109
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:56,719
enough for the fabio talk

3110
02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:58,240
fabiosa

3111
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,240
now um the

3112
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:04,960
the the other part uh for me when it

3113
02:17:10,870 --> 02:17:06,800
comes to nordics

3114
02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:10,880
is that it seems

3115
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:12,800
it seems that they make sense

3116
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:15,280
and the reason why they make sense is

3117
02:17:19,589 --> 02:17:18,479
dna our dna humans homo sapiens you and

3118
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:19,599
i craig

3119
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,200
uh humans

3120
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:23,040
dna is perfect

3121
02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:26,080
two arms two legs you know uh

3122
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:29,040
we can run we look good we

3123
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:30,160
you know

3124
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:32,800
we're a perfect design

3125
02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:35,840
but it has to be universal why wouldn't

3126
02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:37,359
there be

3127
02:17:41,830 --> 02:17:39,599
nordics or us

3128
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:41,840
all over the universe because it's just

3129
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:43,840
it's just a good design

3130
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:46,319
and if we go back to

3131
02:17:51,190 --> 02:17:48,559
george van tassel

3132
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:51,200
the two georges right adamski and van

3133
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:52,479
tassel

3134
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:54,000
um

3135
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:56,559
were they nordics that they were

3136
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:03,110
well they were they were considered

3137
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:05,200
vignutian

3138
02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:09,359
but the venusians and the pleiadians

3139
02:18:15,990 --> 02:18:12,240
primarily because what we know as

3140
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,000
nordics are primarily uh pleiadians

3141
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:18,719
um from all of the things that i've

3142
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:20,000
researched

3143
02:18:25,349 --> 02:18:21,920
is i think that they're sort of

3144
02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:25,359
interchangeable they may have been

3145
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:28,160
from the same root race

3146
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:29,120
right

3147
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:29,920
and

3148
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:34,479
um you know just continue their

3149
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:37,120
evolution so that they do work very well

3150
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:40,399
together um the descriptions are just

3151
02:18:45,509 --> 02:18:42,639
too similar to me it just seems like

3152
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:45,519
george zadamski was just describing

3153
02:18:49,830 --> 02:18:47,920
a nordic that we know today

3154
02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:49,840
yes yeah yeah

3155
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:50,639
and

3156
02:18:56,469 --> 02:18:55,200
those two

3157
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:56,479
and then

3158
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:58,160
um thor

3159
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,319
valiant thor those were all the other

3160
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:02,559
two were earlier in the 50s and thor

3161
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:07,280
came in 57 right so we had these sort of

3162
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:10,960
nordic looking venusians um because it

3163
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:12,319
was said

3164
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:16,080
uh that before thor's call

3165
02:19:20,629 --> 02:19:18,160
here to come and

3166
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:20,639
teach our government about the universe

3167
02:19:25,750 --> 02:19:23,120
and about the detrimental things that

3168
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:25,760
were that they were every the world is

3169
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:27,439
doing to the world

3170
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:29,359
is um

3171
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:31,760
that he

3172
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:35,920
he had to wait for a very long time so

3173
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:39,599
he did live on the interior of venus as

3174
02:19:42,790 --> 02:19:40,960
well so

3175
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:42,800
a lot of people think also that he's

3176
02:19:48,790 --> 02:19:44,479
venusian but i'm not sure if he's

3177
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:48,800
venusian or if he's pleiadian or if he's

3178
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:52,080
even that because a created being

3179
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:54,160
is different than an extraterrestrial

3180
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:55,200
because

3181
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,240
they are either created from

3182
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:00,399
the godhead or the universe if that's

3183
02:20:05,990 --> 02:20:02,800
what you want to do boom you're on the

3184
02:20:07,349 --> 02:20:06,000
inner boom you're on the outer right and

3185
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:07,359
now you go

3186
02:20:12,230 --> 02:20:09,840
and created beings are

3187
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:12,240
angels in human form who are assigned

3188
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:15,600
the sectors of the universe and that

3189
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:17,520
when there are

3190
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:20,479
uh disputes they they go and they're the

3191
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:21,520
ones that

3192
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:23,680
handle those disputes and they go and

3193
02:20:28,309 --> 02:20:26,880
they do all of the hard work that needs

3194
02:20:29,510 --> 02:20:28,319
to be done

3195
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:29,520
during

3196
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,720
uh you know whatever their uh sector is

3197
02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:34,720
so i believe that this sector was

3198
02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:37,120
valiant thor sector and it still is

3199
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:39,439
because he's still here

3200
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:42,160
and that won't he won't go

3201
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:46,720
away until the whole world transforms

3202
02:20:53,270 --> 02:20:50,000
and we move from a dualistic society

3203
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,280
into a fully conscious society now uh

3204
02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:55,680
and there has been a lot of descriptions

3205
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:57,439
uh i want to know what you have found

3206
02:21:02,309 --> 02:20:59,280
out in your interviews

3207
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:02,319
um that nordics speak our language they

3208
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:05,280
eat our food they dress like us

3209
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,080
uh

3210
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:08,720
they they look like us

3211
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:09,680
right

3212
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:12,399
for all indications they can

3213
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:13,439
uh

3214
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:18,560
being too suspicious right if they speak

3215
02:21:23,750 --> 02:21:21,120
the language they eat the food

3216
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:23,760
they can uh valiant thor when he ate

3217
02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:26,399
food he had um

3218
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:27,840
they were

3219
02:21:36,070 --> 02:21:33,600
spirals

3220
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:36,080
and he would drop it into water

3221
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:37,840
and it would fizz

3222
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:39,760
and then he would drink that before

3223
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:42,240
every meal because it removed whatever

3224
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:45,520
bacteria or anything of the food that he

3225
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:47,760
was eating here on earth especially

3226
02:21:53,429 --> 02:21:50,880
during his three years at the pentagon

3227
02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:53,439
um actually dr frank gave me some of

3228
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:55,200
them and

3229
02:22:02,469 --> 02:21:58,240
i i remember yeah he gave me some of the

3230
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:02,479
spirals and uh and i tried one i mean

3231
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:05,840
i i didn't feel any different

3232
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:08,080
you know it didn't have any taste it

3233
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:09,600
didn't uh

3234
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:11,280
you know i didn't feel

3235
02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:12,160
that it

3236
02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:14,800
did anything different inside of me

3237
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:15,840
but

3238
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:21,760
always did before any meal that he would

3239
02:22:27,110 --> 02:22:24,000
have here on earth

3240
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:27,120
like yes before mcdonald's about four

3241
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:28,800
mcdonald's

3242
02:22:31,990 --> 02:22:30,479
and jack in the morning yeah yeah

3243
02:22:36,309 --> 02:22:32,000
jack-in-the-box

3244
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:36,319
night menu is uh is a gift from the

3245
02:22:40,790 --> 02:22:38,319
venusians uh too as well

3246
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:40,800
yeah tacos but uh

3247
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:42,960
wait a minute first uh

3248
02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:44,080
just like uh

3249
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:46,720
like a quarter of an inch right like a

3250
02:22:51,429 --> 02:22:49,040
quarter of an inch and they were like a

3251
02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:51,439
little spiral

3252
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:54,560
and and they fizzed and they fizzed yeah

3253
02:23:01,670 --> 02:22:57,600
they fizz not like an alka-seltzer

3254
02:23:04,389 --> 02:23:01,680
but you would see the particles like

3255
02:23:06,710 --> 02:23:04,399
pop-out like dissolved it wasn't like a

3256
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:06,720
fizz fizz but they would just dissolve

3257
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:08,720
and then he would drink the water have

3258
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:11,760
you ever had these tested

3259
02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:14,319
no i haven't actually you know what lori

3260
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:15,680
wagner and i were going to get them

3261
02:23:20,469 --> 02:23:19,280
tested a long long time ago and

3262
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:20,479
um

3263
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:23,920
i don't even know if i have them anymore

3264
02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:26,399
but i think i gave some to her i'm gonna

3265
02:23:31,349 --> 02:23:28,479
have to ask her tomorrow you know what

3266
02:23:34,630 --> 02:23:31,359
she's texting me right now oh good well

3267
02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:34,640
tell her hold on she's been texting me

3268
02:23:36,950 --> 02:23:36,000
she's been texting me throughout the

3269
02:23:40,630 --> 02:23:36,960
show

3270
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:40,640
um okay hold on for a second

3271
02:23:47,510 --> 02:23:43,840
do you still have the white fizzy

3272
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:50,230
she's probably listening she is and and

3273
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:51,439
so

3274
02:23:56,950 --> 02:23:53,600
um i'm just letting look look these are

3275
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,960
the texts coming in from laurie tonight

3276
02:24:01,590 --> 02:23:59,200
she's the best and what is she saying

3277
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:01,600
she's not texting me i'm feeling very

3278
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:04,160
bad about that

3279
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:06,319
you have your special relationship with

3280
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:09,760
laurie and so do i how do you instead

3281
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:10,880
you know

3282
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:13,280
it's so funny last night uh her and i

3283
02:24:18,550 --> 02:24:15,200
were talking

3284
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:18,560
and uh she's in sedona right now

3285
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,479
and and i said to her i mean it was just

3286
02:24:24,870 --> 02:24:22,240
like the day before she's somewhere else

3287
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:24,880
and the day before she is just always

3288
02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:25,920
out there

3289
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:28,720
you know getting stuff done and she said

3290
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:29,760
uh

3291
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:32,160
um i i don't want to give it away but

3292
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:34,000
she was with a couple of friends out

3293
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:35,280
there and they

3294
02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:37,040
they had an experience

3295
02:24:43,670 --> 02:24:39,120
and so we were talking about that last

3296
02:24:45,830 --> 02:24:43,680
night on the phone and uh um and i i

3297
02:24:48,309 --> 02:24:45,840
think she is so special and and i know

3298
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:48,319
that you guys hang out a lot and in fact

3299
02:24:52,389 --> 02:24:50,319
a few times that you and i have talked

3300
02:24:54,950 --> 02:24:52,399
this year you were always with lori it

3301
02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,960
seemed yes um but uh

3302
02:25:02,389 --> 02:24:56,640
she

3303
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:02,399
couple of reasons one

3304
02:25:05,110 --> 02:25:04,160
she's out there trying to figure things

3305
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:05,120
out

3306
02:25:11,830 --> 02:25:08,399
she's trying to get to the bottom of

3307
02:25:13,990 --> 02:25:11,840
this this high strangeness uh that that

3308
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:14,000
is the world that we live in and that's

3309
02:25:18,150 --> 02:25:16,240
one of the things that that i appreciate

3310
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:18,160
uh about laurie she's like man something

3311
02:25:20,870 --> 02:25:19,120
happened

3312
02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:20,880
you know and or i get these texts and

3313
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:22,800
she's sending me pictures and

3314
02:25:28,070 --> 02:25:25,760
and and she

3315
02:25:30,150 --> 02:25:28,080
she's she's just fun to hang out with

3316
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:30,160
she's so much fun to hang out with i

3317
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:32,479
mean i love her so much she's just like

3318
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,520
my bonded sister for life

3319
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:37,120
yeah i mean

3320
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:39,760
oh my god and i think today she's at the

3321
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:42,800
grand canyon um

3322
02:25:45,750 --> 02:25:44,479
i mean what what a date she goes yeah i

3323
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:45,760
think i'm gonna get up tomorrow i'm

3324
02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:47,840
gonna go uh i'm gonna go from sedona i'm

3325
02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:49,920
gonna go check out the grand canyon and

3326
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:52,080
then head back home and this is what i

3327
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,800
said to her last night okay look lori

3328
02:25:58,389 --> 02:25:56,160
i'm just going to throw you under the

3329
02:26:00,550 --> 02:25:58,399
bus this is what i said to her crack i

3330
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:00,560
said pat you know what i need to hang

3331
02:26:03,910 --> 02:26:01,760
out with you

3332
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:03,920
i need to go to sedona

3333
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:06,000
i want to go have experiences i want to

3334
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:08,000
go to the grand canyon with uh lori

3335
02:26:11,590 --> 02:26:09,840
wagner she goes come on but you're

3336
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:11,600
always doing the show i said you know

3337
02:26:15,190 --> 02:26:12,560
what

3338
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:15,200
technical difficulties week i can

3339
02:26:17,750 --> 02:26:16,319
already

3340
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:17,760
put the post out

3341
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:21,120
and uh let's go uh on the road let's go

3342
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:22,960
on the road with rory white really

3343
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:24,800
absolutely you know we usually go and

3344
02:26:28,870 --> 02:26:26,800
just rent a big house

3345
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:28,880
everyone gets their own room it's cool

3346
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:31,600
yeah yeah yeah uh i'm i'm waiting for

3347
02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:34,000
the reply back i want to know what uh so

3348
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:35,359
you don't know if you have these

3349
02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:37,359
capsules anymore you think laura's gone

3350
02:26:42,710 --> 02:26:40,319
i would have to look i i remember giving

3351
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:42,720
some to lori a long time ago too because

3352
02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:46,319
she was gonna get them tested right and

3353
02:26:49,750 --> 02:26:47,280
um

3354
02:26:51,590 --> 02:26:49,760
and until i i haven't even thought about

3355
02:26:54,070 --> 02:26:51,600
those spirals i don't know why it came

3356
02:26:56,309 --> 02:26:54,080
up because you asked about the food

3357
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:56,319
you know what in nordics

3358
02:27:01,670 --> 02:26:59,439
uh we were talking about because

3359
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:01,680
we were talking about craig craig we're

3360
02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,920
talking about valiant thor and before we

3361
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:05,520
get to the break because when we come

3362
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:07,680
back craig doesn't know this yet but

3363
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,280
he's going to stay with us because we're

3364
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:11,520
going to talk about the movie dune so

3365
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:13,600
he's not going to bed just yet

3366
02:27:19,670 --> 02:27:18,080
um but valiant thor uh he's still here

3367
02:27:22,630 --> 02:27:19,680
he's still here

3368
02:27:25,030 --> 02:27:22,640
and he he's here for the whole

3369
02:27:26,950 --> 02:27:25,040
transformation of the planet

3370
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,960
right so

3371
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:28,319
um

3372
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:32,000
i mean he was coming here well before 57

3373
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:36,160
but his official capacity started in 57

3374
02:27:39,110 --> 02:27:36,960
and

3375
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:39,120
that he is here with his entire

3376
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:41,520
compliment and uh

3377
02:27:45,910 --> 02:27:44,560
you know he built uh um

3378
02:27:49,990 --> 02:27:45,920
a

3379
02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:50,000
seven

3380
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:55,600
miles wide and 14 miles long

3381
02:27:59,110 --> 02:27:57,359
where there's a whole complement of

3382
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:59,120
beings throughout the universe that are

3383
02:28:04,469 --> 02:28:01,680
on it that are above

3384
02:28:08,309 --> 02:28:04,479
above earth and that

3385
02:28:11,270 --> 02:28:08,319
in and around earth there are

3386
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:11,280
victor class saucers

3387
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:13,680
that are 300 feet in diameter each one

3388
02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:16,240
holds 200 people

3389
02:28:20,429 --> 02:28:18,479
people can see the blueprints to it in

3390
02:28:23,750 --> 02:28:20,439
the poster on stranger at the

3391
02:28:24,830 --> 02:28:23,760
pentagon.com under book and dvd

3392
02:28:30,469 --> 02:28:24,840
and

3393
02:28:32,309 --> 02:28:30,479
yeah i mean it's

3394
02:28:33,990 --> 02:28:32,319
they're huge they're like double it's

3395
02:28:35,950 --> 02:28:34,000
it's double decker but they are

3396
02:28:39,590 --> 02:28:35,960
stationed at

3397
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:39,600
280 some locations in and around and

3398
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:42,080
above the earth and they're monitoring

3399
02:28:45,349 --> 02:28:44,080
everything they have the capacity to

3400
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:45,359
monitor

3401
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:46,479
um

3402
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:47,920
uh

3403
02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:51,840
all of the wavelengths of people on the

3404
02:28:55,510 --> 02:28:52,880
planet

3405
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:55,520
meaning if somebody is going to do

3406
02:28:59,830 --> 02:28:56,640
something

3407
02:29:03,270 --> 02:28:59,840
horrifically bad or is contemplating it

3408
02:29:07,110 --> 02:29:03,280
or is seeing it they can observe it

3409
02:29:09,110 --> 02:29:07,120
and then they report it and then they're

3410
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:09,120
told what if they're

3411
02:29:14,389 --> 02:29:11,680
supposed to take action it's a valiant

3412
02:29:18,230 --> 02:29:14,399
thor still interfacing with washington

3413
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:18,240
dc like he did in 57 you know i would

3414
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:20,479
venture to say since he's been here this

3415
02:29:24,389 --> 02:29:22,399
whole time he

3416
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:24,399
i don't know if he's interfaced with

3417
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:27,680
every president but i would assume

3418
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:29,200
that he would

3419
02:29:36,950 --> 02:29:34,080
and my feeling is is uh when he was here

3420
02:29:38,230 --> 02:29:36,960
nasa was just getting it's it's it's

3421
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:38,240
foothold

3422
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:41,920
and he did uh he was at nasa quite a bit

3423
02:29:46,230 --> 02:29:44,399
and he helped with the regulation of

3424
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:46,240
their spacesuits

3425
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:47,120
and

3426
02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:49,680
um dr frank also told me was some kind

3427
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:52,240
of medication so the astronauts didn't

3428
02:29:57,270 --> 02:29:53,760
get sick

3429
02:29:59,270 --> 02:29:57,280
and um i believe weirdly enough this is

3430
02:30:01,750 --> 02:29:59,280
just me

3431
02:30:03,190 --> 02:30:01,760
i believe he still

3432
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:03,200
is there

3433
02:30:07,510 --> 02:30:05,760
has some kind of capacity do you know if

3434
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:07,520
he's aged

3435
02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:08,319
no

3436
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:12,800
their whole their their whole

3437
02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:14,240
environments

3438
02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:24,150
they call it a resonation field so on

3439
02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:27,200
board all their crafts on the interiors

3440
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:28,640
of planets

3441
02:30:33,670 --> 02:30:31,280
the it's all with a resonation field

3442
02:30:36,230 --> 02:30:33,680
that keeps their cells totally

3443
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:36,240
rejuvenated at all times so that they

3444
02:30:42,790 --> 02:30:39,520
never age so even though some of them

3445
02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:42,800
some of the et humans could be two three

3446
02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:46,640
four five thousand years old right they

3447
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:49,200
still look the same

3448
02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:51,520
unless they want to alter their

3449
02:30:56,309 --> 02:30:53,920
appearance and start to look a little

3450
02:30:58,309 --> 02:30:56,319
older they can do that as well it's up

3451
02:31:01,190 --> 02:30:58,319
to them it's their choice

3452
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:01,200
right but um but a lot of the different

3453
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:03,760
races will have you know a 2 000 year

3454
02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:06,880
span a three a four or a five some can

3455
02:31:11,670 --> 02:31:09,840
live on uh for more but usually each

3456
02:31:14,710 --> 02:31:11,680
planetary sphere

3457
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:14,720
has been given a time frame

3458
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:17,600
to learn what they need to learn if it's

3459
02:31:20,950 --> 02:31:20,080
a 2000 year span

3460
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:20,960
right

3461
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:23,680
and then in that 2000 years they can

3462
02:31:28,070 --> 02:31:26,080
learn and then they can come back out

3463
02:31:29,830 --> 02:31:28,080
and then decide what their next

3464
02:31:32,230 --> 02:31:29,840
experience is going to be will it be

3465
02:31:34,389 --> 02:31:32,240
back on that planet to learn some more

3466
02:31:36,950 --> 02:31:34,399
or will they go to another planet be a

3467
02:31:38,870 --> 02:31:36,960
different species and start learning

3468
02:31:40,070 --> 02:31:38,880
from them as well

3469
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:40,080
so

3470
02:31:44,630 --> 02:31:42,479
all planets are schools and where this

3471
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:44,640
is what we're in we're all in a giant

3472
02:31:48,070 --> 02:31:45,600
school

3473
02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:48,080
fascinating fascinating yeah

3474
02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:50,080
yeah fascinating let's take our break

3475
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:51,520
right here let's take a break our guest

3476
02:31:56,710 --> 02:31:54,399
tonight craig campobaso and when we come

3477
02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:56,720
back we're going to talk about

3478
02:32:00,550 --> 02:31:58,319
dune

3479
02:32:03,349 --> 02:32:00,560
as everybody knows it was released on

3480
02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:03,359
friday night i watched it twice this

3481
02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:04,479
weekend

3482
02:32:09,910 --> 02:32:07,359
and of course this is dune 2021

3483
02:32:12,790 --> 02:32:09,920
fantastic movie but craig worked on

3484
02:32:14,469 --> 02:32:12,800
david lynch's film for four years so uh

3485
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,479
what did he think of the new dune we'll

3486
02:32:18,230 --> 02:32:16,399
talk about the old dune

3487
02:32:19,910 --> 02:32:18,240
when we come back this is fade to black

3488
02:32:23,250 --> 02:32:19,920
i'm yours jimmy church more with craig

3489
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:23,260
after this short break stay with us

3490
02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:38,469
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3491
02:32:45,670 --> 02:32:41,359
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3492
02:32:51,550 --> 02:32:48,230
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3493
02:32:56,630 --> 02:32:51,560
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3494
02:33:01,190 --> 02:32:58,309
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3549
02:36:04,550 --> 02:36:03,349
welcome back fade to black i am your

3550
02:36:06,950 --> 02:36:04,560
host jimmy church tonight craig

3551
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:06,960
campobaso is with us

3552
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:13,190
you got to get the book

3553
02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:15,520
here it is the extraterrestrial species

3554
02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:18,960
almanac we just scratched the surface

3555
02:36:22,630 --> 02:36:21,520
uh with uh the content that is in this

3556
02:36:24,389 --> 02:36:22,640
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3557
02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:24,399
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3558
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:28,160
but i have to get to the movie dune

3559
02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:31,600
um uh craig worked with uh david lynch

3560
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:34,399
on uh david lynch's version

3561
02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:37,439
of uh of the movie and i'm just gonna

3562
02:36:40,870 --> 02:36:39,200
ask you straight out

3563
02:36:43,670 --> 02:36:40,880
uh craig what did you what did you make

3564
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:43,680
of dune 2021

3565
02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:45,439
well i

3566
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:48,399
back when uh i was just out of high

3567
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:53,120
school and i got a job on dune as a

3568
02:36:58,710 --> 02:36:55,840
production office assistant so

3569
02:37:01,030 --> 02:36:58,720
the first year it was just me david

3570
02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:01,040
rafaela de laurentiis the producer and

3571
02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:03,120
two secretaries right

3572
02:37:09,190 --> 02:37:05,600
so you get to know everybody through

3573
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:09,200
then i didn't know who anybody was i was

3574
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:11,439
like a kid from the valley

3575
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:14,720
out of school right and so

3576
02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:16,880
so it was a really great learning

3577
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:19,120
experience and i really just sort of

3578
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:22,080
watched david and that kind of thing but

3579
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:25,040
i was able to view all of the problems

3580
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,319
that our version of dune had

3581
02:37:33,110 --> 02:37:30,880
that they couldn't do like a lot of the

3582
02:37:36,389 --> 02:37:33,120
visual effects originally

3583
02:37:40,070 --> 02:37:36,399
john dykstra was on the movie

3584
02:37:43,190 --> 02:37:40,080
and him and rafaela got into a fight

3585
02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:43,200
which was in in my opinion

3586
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:45,120
should have been mended because the

3587
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:47,120
visual effects would have been

3588
02:37:52,150 --> 02:37:49,359
very good because he had just done star

3589
02:37:54,230 --> 02:37:52,160
wars right right so

3590
02:37:57,590 --> 02:37:54,240
um so

3591
02:38:01,510 --> 02:37:57,600
so they couldn't do the blue within blue

3592
02:38:03,830 --> 02:38:01,520
um for the longest time val kilmer was

3593
02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:03,840
in consideration of playing paul maud

3594
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:04,880
dib

3595
02:38:10,230 --> 02:38:06,560
and um

3596
02:38:13,750 --> 02:38:10,240
uh in fact val myself and rafaela went

3597
02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:13,760
to some little crazy science science guy

3598
02:38:19,190 --> 02:38:17,120
who poured molds into our eyes

3599
02:38:21,990 --> 02:38:19,200
and was going to make blue within blue

3600
02:38:24,950 --> 02:38:22,000
lenses and put them in us to see

3601
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:24,960
how they worked but they wouldn't work

3602
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:27,200
because the eyes couldn't breathe and

3603
02:38:31,429 --> 02:38:29,200
you couldn't leave them in the actors

3604
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:31,439
all day long right

3605
02:38:36,710 --> 02:38:33,840
um so

3606
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:36,720
so a lot of the things in dune to cut

3607
02:38:42,790 --> 02:38:39,439
corners where you would see ron miller's

3608
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:42,800
actual airbrush picture

3609
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:44,479
as a backdrop

3610
02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:45,600
right

3611
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:48,399
not an albert whitlock painting

3612
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:49,600
because

3613
02:38:53,510 --> 02:38:52,160
you know albert albert had done already

3614
02:38:55,670 --> 02:38:53,520
so much and i don't know what his

3615
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:55,680
workload was but these movies keep

3616
02:38:59,349 --> 02:38:57,439
getting more and more expensive i don't

3617
02:39:02,710 --> 02:38:59,359
even know what it cost in the end to

3618
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:02,720
make dune but it was done at estudios

3619
02:39:07,429 --> 02:39:06,160
chabusco in mexico city

3620
02:39:09,429 --> 02:39:07,439
but by the way

3621
02:39:10,630 --> 02:39:09,439
not only

3622
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:10,640
were

3623
02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:12,399
myself

3624
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:17,040
and rafaela and dino working on dune

3625
02:39:21,590 --> 02:39:18,880
but we're also working on conan the

3626
02:39:22,830 --> 02:39:21,600
destroyer at the same time both films

3627
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,840
shooting

3628
02:39:27,990 --> 02:39:24,560
simultaneously

3629
02:39:29,429 --> 02:39:28,000
at a studio chair busco in mexico city

3630
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:29,439
right so if you're looking for grace

3631
02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:32,800
jones you went to a dune set if you were

3632
02:39:35,910 --> 02:39:34,880
right you know that that kind of thing

3633
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:35,920
so

3634
02:39:44,309 --> 02:39:42,880
right when jurassic park came out i went

3635
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:44,319
oh my god look what they're doing with

3636
02:39:49,349 --> 02:39:46,080
visual effects and wouldn't it be great

3637
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:49,359
to see what they could do with dune now

3638
02:39:53,510 --> 02:39:52,720
how they could create that world

3639
02:39:58,150 --> 02:39:53,520
and

3640
02:40:00,230 --> 02:39:58,160
um you know the way that it was intended

3641
02:40:03,750 --> 02:40:00,240
to be

3642
02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:03,760
there's i still love our version of the

3643
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:04,720
film

3644
02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:09,040
and i love denise version as well and i

3645
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:10,720
saw it on the big screen at warner

3646
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:12,880
brothers at a screening where denny

3647
02:40:18,950 --> 02:40:15,840
spoke the director afterwards

3648
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,960
and he was talking about certain things

3649
02:40:23,910 --> 02:40:21,040
and

3650
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:23,920
the problem with arduino is david had

3651
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:26,640
six and a half hours of film i think

3652
02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:28,640
maybe even seven

3653
02:40:32,870 --> 02:40:30,720
and you couldn't make

3654
02:40:34,630 --> 02:40:32,880
a giant movie it would be more like a

3655
02:40:36,070 --> 02:40:34,640
mini series

3656
02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:36,080
and so

3657
02:40:41,429 --> 02:40:37,040
my

3658
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:41,439
editing suite

3659
02:40:46,469 --> 02:40:44,399
and i do remember a day towards the end

3660
02:40:51,110 --> 02:40:46,479
where dino was there

3661
02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:51,120
with um uh anthony gibbs our editor

3662
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:52,960
and david

3663
02:40:58,070 --> 02:40:55,760
and they were doing the moviola

3664
02:41:00,550 --> 02:40:58,080
and dina was just saying you know cut

3665
02:41:03,110 --> 02:41:00,560
the cut the cut the cut the cut the cut

3666
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:03,120
the cut and you could just see david

3667
02:41:09,510 --> 02:41:07,120
going crazy because he's he cut

3668
02:41:11,750 --> 02:41:09,520
all the fremen out

3669
02:41:14,710 --> 02:41:11,760
right there were actors down there who

3670
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:14,720
were there for four to six months who

3671
02:41:18,710 --> 02:41:17,840
were reduced to an extra

3672
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:18,720
right

3673
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:19,840
so

3674
02:41:26,710 --> 02:41:24,080
denise version he did it smartly he ends

3675
02:41:28,630 --> 02:41:26,720
it with paul and jessica entering the

3676
02:41:31,510 --> 02:41:28,640
fremen society

3677
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:31,520
so that there's a part two

3678
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:33,920
where then that can be finished that

3679
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:36,160
part i loved of course all the visual

3680
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:37,680
effects

3681
02:41:43,590 --> 02:41:41,120
i mean were just incredible

3682
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:43,600
but you can't beat bob ringwood's

3683
02:41:47,990 --> 02:41:46,319
costumes in the original dune compared

3684
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:48,000
to the new doom

3685
02:41:53,830 --> 02:41:50,880
right yeah um bob ringo's costumes i

3686
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,840
mean they were unbelievable i remember

3687
02:42:03,349 --> 02:41:55,200
jessica

3688
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:03,359
look i didn't i never had

3689
02:42:06,389 --> 02:42:05,439
the issues

3690
02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:06,399
that

3691
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:09,200
uh the critics had with with lynch's

3692
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:10,240
dune

3693
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:13,760
right i was never offended and it seemed

3694
02:42:16,710 --> 02:42:15,760
like um

3695
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:16,720
that

3696
02:42:20,309 --> 02:42:17,840
the uh

3697
02:42:22,469 --> 02:42:20,319
hollywood didn't want to like uh david

3698
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:22,479
lynch's movie it wasn't david it wasn't

3699
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:24,960
because of david lynch everybody felt

3700
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:26,960
that dune could ever make it to the big

3701
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:28,560
screen and therefore this was going to

3702
02:42:32,150 --> 02:42:30,880
be a failure from the word go

3703
02:42:36,230 --> 02:42:32,160
but

3704
02:42:40,230 --> 02:42:36,240
time time has has definitely shown

3705
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:40,240
that lynch's dune is a spectacular movie

3706
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:41,040
um

3707
02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:46,000
think he did the best that he anybody

3708
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:47,840
could have done with the dialogue in the

3709
02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:48,880
story

3710
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:51,359
um frank herbert's books

3711
02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:52,160
are

3712
02:42:55,670 --> 02:42:54,880
you know so

3713
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:55,680
yeah

3714
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:00,319
oh look signed by frank herbert himself

3715
02:43:04,870 --> 02:43:02,560
yeah that's pretty cool man

3716
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:04,880
that's pretty cool um

3717
02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:08,160
but i i i loved uh

3718
02:43:12,790 --> 02:43:10,000
david lynch's version of which i've

3719
02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:12,800
probably seen it a hundred times and i'm

3720
02:43:15,750 --> 02:43:14,560
not exaggerating

3721
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:15,760
it's good

3722
02:43:20,309 --> 02:43:17,359
what what happened

3723
02:43:24,550 --> 02:43:20,319
as i recall it way back when

3724
02:43:27,269 --> 02:43:24,560
is we after production wrapped in mexico

3725
02:43:29,990 --> 02:43:27,279
uh everyone is back at universal

3726
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:30,000
universal was trying to sneak into our

3727
02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:32,560
editing bays and see some of the film

3728
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:34,240
and david didn't want to show it to

3729
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:37,200
anybody until it was ready so we moved

3730
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:38,640
off the lot

3731
02:43:43,269 --> 02:43:41,439
and we moved into a building called van

3732
02:43:46,469 --> 02:43:43,279
de vere photo effects and they're the

3733
02:43:48,630 --> 02:43:46,479
ones who ended up doing the um

3734
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:48,640
visual effects so

3735
02:43:54,550 --> 02:43:51,840
so we had the whole upper floor as our

3736
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:54,560
production offices when with the

3737
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:57,279
visual effects company downstairs so it

3738
02:44:01,670 --> 02:43:59,040
was good in that sense that everybody

3739
02:44:05,269 --> 02:44:01,680
was in the same place but at the time

3740
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:05,279
there was a changing of the guards and

3741
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:07,120
how i heard it

3742
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:09,760
is that they were friendly with sid

3743
02:44:15,990 --> 02:44:12,960
scheinberg and when frank price came in

3744
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:16,000
frank and dino didn't get along

3745
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:17,520
and that

3746
02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:19,840
because they weren't showing advanced

3747
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:22,960
screenings or anything everyone got out

3748
02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:24,880
of sort and

3749
02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:27,279
and that's when all of the bad press

3750
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:29,920
started coming out and that kind of

3751
02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:33,040
thing and when you when you look at it

3752
02:44:38,309 --> 02:44:35,439
back then i tried to read dune and i

3753
02:44:40,710 --> 02:44:38,319
didn't understand it i i you know with

3754
02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:40,720
who i was back then

3755
02:44:45,190 --> 02:44:43,600
and and when i saw david's version of it

3756
02:44:48,309 --> 02:44:45,200
of course

3757
02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:48,319
i i was like oh i get it i get it right

3758
02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:51,040
and so and then of course throughout the

3759
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:54,479
years reading it and getting into you

3760
02:44:58,309 --> 02:44:57,120
know frank's mind about the whole world

3761
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:58,319
of dune

3762
02:45:02,950 --> 02:44:59,359
um

3763
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:02,960
really came together for me uh but

3764
02:45:05,429 --> 02:45:04,479
um

3765
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:05,439
the

3766
02:45:14,950 --> 02:45:11,920
uh so that's where all of that bad press

3767
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:14,960
started and then some of the press

3768
02:45:19,269 --> 02:45:17,040
started saying oh they have to explain

3769
02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:19,279
the movie with princess earl and in the

3770
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:21,680
beginning by the way that was

3771
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:24,640
universal's idea it was not david's

3772
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:26,800
that's how i remember it

3773
02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:28,800
because that was never there and they

3774
02:45:32,790 --> 02:45:30,240
had to go in

3775
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:32,800
and reshoot that thinking that they had

3776
02:45:37,190 --> 02:45:34,640
to do it but if you look at denny's

3777
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:37,200
version johnny kind of does the same

3778
02:45:41,830 --> 02:45:39,120
thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

3779
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:41,840
definitely yes yes yes yes you do have

3780
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:44,080
to take a little bit of those licenses

3781
02:45:49,110 --> 02:45:45,760
for people to understand what the hell

3782
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:49,120
is spice and what does it do well um

3783
02:45:56,230 --> 02:45:52,399
okay now i want to talk to you about uh

3784
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:56,240
dune 2021 and i'll tell you one of the

3785
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:59,279
biggest if if there is a contrast

3786
02:46:03,590 --> 02:46:01,279
between the two films

3787
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:03,600
um and i'm just talking about characters

3788
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:04,640
uh

3789
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:08,720
jessica

3790
02:46:18,150 --> 02:46:13,920
is strong

3791
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:18,160
stands upright and is a leader

3792
02:46:22,870 --> 02:46:20,960
regal regal and

3793
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:22,880
the costume has a lot to do with that by

3794
02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:24,960
the way but anyway and and she's

3795
02:46:26,950 --> 02:46:26,080
beautiful

3796
02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:26,960
um

3797
02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:30,160
jessica in dune 21

3798
02:46:34,070 --> 02:46:31,760
is

3799
02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:34,080
i want to say almost forlorn or

3800
02:46:36,710 --> 02:46:35,760
melancholy

3801
02:46:40,630 --> 02:46:36,720
almost

3802
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:40,640
uh defeated and it's the exact opposite

3803
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:43,120
of the way david lynch and i

3804
02:46:48,309 --> 02:46:45,600
and i think the way that frank herbert

3805
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:48,319
had always intended jessica to be a very

3806
02:46:53,830 --> 02:46:49,600
strong

3807
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:53,840
uh uh figure did you did you see the the

3808
02:47:00,389 --> 02:46:57,120
contrast uh in the two jessica's there

3809
02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:00,399
there was an um and the costumes on

3810
02:47:06,710 --> 02:47:04,160
jessica were downplayed even even when

3811
02:47:08,389 --> 02:47:06,720
she came off the ship uh you know when

3812
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:08,399
she's in the gold which was really

3813
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:10,240
beautiful and

3814
02:47:17,030 --> 02:47:13,600
that kind of thing but uh was definitely

3815
02:47:19,429 --> 02:47:17,040
you know denny did not go for that that

3816
02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:19,439
version of it and everyone's

3817
02:47:25,670 --> 02:47:21,279
performances were

3818
02:47:27,429 --> 02:47:25,680
were really um understated and internal

3819
02:47:30,150 --> 02:47:27,439
right because

3820
02:47:32,830 --> 02:47:30,160
um i think that's how the book sort of

3821
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:32,840
reads internally

3822
02:47:35,510 --> 02:47:34,560
um and

3823
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:35,520
uh

3824
02:47:38,630 --> 02:47:36,640
but

3825
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:38,640
i mean i liked

3826
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:41,359
uh in in

3827
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:42,960
david's version

3828
02:47:47,510 --> 02:47:43,920
uh

3829
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:47,520
i really i love timothy charlemay and i

3830
02:47:51,030 --> 02:47:49,600
love kyle of course

3831
02:47:53,670 --> 02:47:51,040
they're they're two totally different

3832
02:47:56,309 --> 02:47:53,680
performances and i like them both

3833
02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:56,319
right i i like them both it's just a

3834
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:58,240
director's choice on

3835
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:00,720
on which way to go or and you know in

3836
02:48:04,070 --> 02:48:03,200
conjunction with the actor

3837
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:04,080
and

3838
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:05,439
uh but

3839
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:06,560
i

3840
02:48:14,630 --> 02:48:12,960
that we do get to see the emperor and

3841
02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:14,640
fade and

3842
02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:16,720
you know uh some of the characters that

3843
02:48:20,389 --> 02:48:18,240
were missing but

3844
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:20,399
um i can see why they were left out

3845
02:48:24,070 --> 02:48:22,160
because there was already too many and

3846
02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:24,080
you don't want to confuse the audience

3847
02:48:29,030 --> 02:48:26,640
and you could bring those in later

3848
02:48:30,469 --> 02:48:29,040
because uh you know the emperor was

3849
02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:30,479
mentioned and

3850
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:31,600
uh

3851
02:48:35,510 --> 02:48:32,960
you know that kind of thing but the

3852
02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:35,520
visual effects were just wow i mean you

3853
02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:36,399
know

3854
02:48:40,150 --> 02:48:39,279
it's it reminded me of a rival his other

3855
02:48:42,550 --> 02:48:40,160
film

3856
02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:42,560
you know that sort of tone uh with the

3857
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:45,040
ships and the different things and did

3858
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:48,399
you like did you like dune 2021 though i

3859
02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:51,680
did i really did yeah so did i

3860
02:48:58,309 --> 02:48:55,200
yeah i really really liked it a lot i

3861
02:49:01,510 --> 02:48:58,319
mean a lot a lot so

3862
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:01,520
this is what happened to me i i i didn't

3863
02:49:05,349 --> 02:49:02,960
know

3864
02:49:07,670 --> 02:49:05,359
um and i thought that i had been

3865
02:49:10,870 --> 02:49:07,680
following uh the production of dune

3866
02:49:13,910 --> 02:49:10,880
pretty pretty well and what was going on

3867
02:49:16,070 --> 02:49:13,920
they did a great job of hiding that this

3868
02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:16,080
was just a part one

3869
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,960
yes they did nobody nobody you know what

3870
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:20,880
anybody that says that they knew this in

3871
02:49:27,750 --> 02:49:25,040
advance no i bet i i stayed on top of it

3872
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:27,760
and this is what happened to me

3873
02:49:32,150 --> 02:49:29,680
i'm watching the movie

3874
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:32,160
and i'm about three quarters of the way

3875
02:49:35,590 --> 02:49:33,520
through

3876
02:49:37,349 --> 02:49:35,600
and i'm thinking to myself

3877
02:49:38,630 --> 02:49:37,359
how are they gonna finish this film in

3878
02:49:40,469 --> 02:49:38,640
30 minutes

3879
02:49:41,830 --> 02:49:40,479
right wait wait

3880
02:49:46,550 --> 02:49:41,840
it's too

3881
02:49:51,030 --> 02:49:46,560
and

3882
02:49:53,830 --> 02:49:51,040
how villeneuve was going to

3883
02:49:55,910 --> 02:49:53,840
somehow get to an act three and finish

3884
02:49:58,790 --> 02:49:55,920
the film in 30 minutes

3885
02:50:00,790 --> 02:49:58,800
and and and then i started to realize

3886
02:50:01,990 --> 02:50:00,800
wait a minute here this is like peter

3887
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:02,000
jackson

3888
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:04,000
this is just a part one this has got to

3889
02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:06,960
be a trilogy i waited until the film was

3890
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:08,880
done and then i checked out the internet

3891
02:50:13,910 --> 02:50:11,439
and then sure enough did you know that

3892
02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:13,920
this was part one when you were watching

3893
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:14,880
the film

3894
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:18,800
i did because i i follow all of the dune

3895
02:50:25,510 --> 02:50:21,760
um things including denny's

3896
02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:25,520
hashtag on instagram so i did know

3897
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,200
that it was part one and the film was

3898
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:29,520
released all over europe and did really

3899
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:32,399
really well in the box office over there

3900
02:50:37,750 --> 02:50:35,200
so that a lot of it was you know let's

3901
02:50:39,269 --> 02:50:37,760
keep the momentum going so we can make

3902
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:39,279
part two

3903
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:41,200
right and and

3904
02:50:46,550 --> 02:50:45,040
part two i didn't understand at first

3905
02:50:48,550 --> 02:50:46,560
what they were meaning i was like are

3906
02:50:50,870 --> 02:50:48,560
they talking about dune messiah the

3907
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:50,880
second boy right right right right you

3908
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:53,920
know so i wasn't really quite sure until

3909
02:50:58,710 --> 02:50:56,160
i read more and more posts as they were

3910
02:51:01,269 --> 02:50:58,720
coming out that it was part two

3911
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:01,279
of dune and i actually thought that that

3912
02:51:06,870 --> 02:51:03,600
was brilliant because

3913
02:51:08,630 --> 02:51:06,880
um they i as i saw that there was no way

3914
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:08,640
that we could have done it david

3915
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:10,720
couldn't do it and that's why

3916
02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:12,880
you know you missed all of that fremont

3917
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:14,080
stuff

3918
02:51:18,070 --> 02:51:16,000
i want to see paula tradies ride the

3919
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:18,080
worms

3920
02:51:22,550 --> 02:51:19,200
exactly

3921
02:51:25,429 --> 02:51:22,560
you know and so all of that

3922
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:25,439
the entire uh

3923
02:51:30,710 --> 02:51:29,200
uh second two thirds of the first book

3924
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:30,720
were not in the film

3925
02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:35,279
so you've got the entire training

3926
02:51:38,630 --> 02:51:36,240
uh

3927
02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:38,640
before the big battle of course

3928
02:51:45,910 --> 02:51:41,439
uh with the fremen uh you had the reveal

3929
02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:45,920
of the uh of the oceans um on arrakis

3930
02:51:51,030 --> 02:51:48,720
and and what that means to paul

3931
02:51:53,590 --> 02:51:51,040
and and what goes on with the freeman

3932
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:53,600
that's a huge part that's act two

3933
02:51:58,150 --> 02:51:56,240
and that is where uh you know we're not

3934
02:52:01,269 --> 02:51:58,160
getting to act three which is you know

3935
02:52:03,349 --> 02:52:01,279
the battle for arrakis so all of that

3936
02:52:05,110 --> 02:52:03,359
i'm wondering if that's how he's going

3937
02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:05,120
to set it up that there's going to be

3938
02:52:08,870 --> 02:52:06,880
the entire freeman

3939
02:52:12,950 --> 02:52:08,880
uh reveal with paul

3940
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:12,960
um and jessica and then of course uh

3941
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:15,439
act three must be uh part three of the

3942
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:17,920
films has got to be uh the battle for

3943
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:19,200
arrakis

3944
02:52:23,030 --> 02:52:21,520
well it's not only that it's it's now

3945
02:52:24,389 --> 02:52:23,040
gonna see what they're gonna do with

3946
02:52:28,550 --> 02:52:24,399
alya

3947
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,560
the the the his sister because uh the

3948
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:30,720
actress that played her was alicia witt

3949
02:52:33,349 --> 02:52:32,000
you know who

3950
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:33,359
grew up

3951
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:36,240
you know starring on sybil and lots of

3952
02:52:42,870 --> 02:52:38,640
other tv shows and movies

3953
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:42,880
and um and it was always that she was a

3954
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:45,760
child with a woman's voice

3955
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:46,640
so

3956
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:51,760
strange in dune because i know that they

3957
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:54,080
tried dubbing it many different times

3958
02:52:57,670 --> 02:52:55,600
and it just didn't work so it's going to

3959
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:57,680
be really interesting to see what they

3960
02:53:00,950 --> 02:52:58,560
do

3961
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:00,960
with it in the sequel

3962
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:02,640
and uh

3963
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:04,560
any word about

3964
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:06,240
uh

3965
02:53:12,870 --> 02:53:10,880
was saying in his hashtag that we got to

3966
02:53:15,190 --> 02:53:12,880
keep the momentum going

3967
02:53:17,349 --> 02:53:15,200
i would have thought if you're going to

3968
02:53:20,150 --> 02:53:17,359
present it this way that he would have

3969
02:53:21,990 --> 02:53:20,160
taken from the peter jackson playbook

3970
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:22,000
and he was shooting part two and part

3971
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,160
three at the same time

3972
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:26,479
well you would think that but i i don't

3973
02:53:31,349 --> 02:53:28,880
think that uh are we gonna have to wait

3974
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:31,359
two years for part two

3975
02:53:37,910 --> 02:53:34,720
i i think uh that you are and i haven't

3976
02:53:40,950 --> 02:53:37,920
heard any word i mean dune

3977
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:40,960
on its first weekend only made 40 40

3978
02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:42,000
million

3979
02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:46,080
right so it didn't do like 80 or 90

3980
02:53:50,790 --> 02:53:49,120
which i think what they were hoping

3981
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:50,800
um so

3982
02:53:55,110 --> 02:53:52,880
so i don't know i guess it just depends

3983
02:53:57,269 --> 02:53:55,120
on what the worldwide box office is and

3984
02:53:58,950 --> 02:53:57,279
and really what that movie cost i have

3985
02:54:01,190 --> 02:53:58,960
no idea what them well i thought that

3986
02:54:02,389 --> 02:54:01,200
they did a hundred million in europe

3987
02:54:03,190 --> 02:54:02,399
before

3988
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:03,200
uh

3989
02:54:11,110 --> 02:54:08,080
already went over 100 million

3990
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:11,120
yeah yeah well going over 100 million

3991
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:13,760
and what they've spent on uh print and

3992
02:54:19,190 --> 02:54:15,920
advertising and all of that

3993
02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:19,200
you know they they spend on movies

3994
02:54:22,870 --> 02:54:21,600
sometimes is uh you know half the budget

3995
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:22,880
or more

3996
02:54:27,349 --> 02:54:25,200
just uh for that because really where

3997
02:54:29,030 --> 02:54:27,359
they make their money is a merchandising

3998
02:54:31,269 --> 02:54:29,040
now what did you make okay let's go back

3999
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:31,279
to the characters uh for a second what

4000
02:54:34,950 --> 02:54:33,680
did you think about jason momoa and and

4001
02:54:37,750 --> 02:54:34,960
duncan

4002
02:54:40,790 --> 02:54:37,760
loved him i i did too i loved him and i

4003
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:40,800
loved uh richard jordan as well in the

4004
02:54:46,309 --> 02:54:43,680
original and and i went on to hire him

4005
02:54:50,710 --> 02:54:46,319
in uh other films as well he was a great

4006
02:54:53,830 --> 02:54:50,720
guy and uh um uh brolin

4007
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:53,840
john was great he was great

4008
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:55,439
he was great i thought he did really

4009
02:54:59,590 --> 02:54:57,840
good with gurney you know we had patrick

4010
02:55:01,590 --> 02:54:59,600
stewart before

4011
02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:01,600
star trek

4012
02:55:04,150 --> 02:55:03,279
yeah yeah

4013
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:04,160
um

4014
02:55:10,950 --> 02:55:05,200
uh

4015
02:55:13,910 --> 02:55:10,960
david lynch's film of course

4016
02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:13,920
is is paul and the box right the benny

4017
02:55:17,910 --> 02:55:16,399
chester at which

4018
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:17,920
and to

4019
02:55:23,750 --> 02:55:20,080
there were a lot of scenes actually that

4020
02:55:26,550 --> 02:55:23,760
villanov did that were pretty

4021
02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:26,560
pretty close to david lynch right why

4022
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:29,120
break it i mean why fix it if it ain't

4023
02:55:35,030 --> 02:55:32,640
broke right okay well it was it was true

4024
02:55:38,230 --> 02:55:35,040
to the book it just didn't seem like he

4025
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:38,240
did yeah but let's settle okay i i don't

4026
02:55:43,110 --> 02:55:40,240
want we're almost out of time

4027
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:43,120
there are reasons why david lynch's

4028
02:55:46,630 --> 02:55:45,120
movie was so great you go and you read

4029
02:55:48,230 --> 02:55:46,640
the book and you're like oh crap and

4030
02:55:51,190 --> 02:55:48,240
david lynch didn't do anything it's

4031
02:55:53,429 --> 02:55:51,200
right off the pages of the book right

4032
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:53,439
and and the same thing with villanuev

4033
02:55:58,790 --> 02:55:55,120
you can't mess with that

4034
02:56:01,590 --> 02:55:58,800
but that scene paul in the box i was

4035
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:01,600
waiting for that scene

4036
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:03,279
what did you make of it what did you

4037
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:06,560
think well well sean phillips who is a

4038
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:09,520
brilliant british actress played the

4039
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:10,800
original

4040
02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:19,910
um

4041
02:56:25,030 --> 02:56:22,640
and interestingly enough she was married

4042
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:25,040
to peter o'toole and they had all their

4043
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:26,960
children together

4044
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:29,680
i stayed in touch with sean for

4045
02:56:34,150 --> 02:56:31,920
probably 10 years after

4046
02:56:35,110 --> 02:56:34,160
dune

4047
02:56:37,750 --> 02:56:35,120
if

4048
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:37,760
me being a casting director

4049
02:56:43,910 --> 02:56:40,960
if i were to have chosen

4050
02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:43,920
a current person to play her

4051
02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:47,200
charlotte rampling you can't get any

4052
02:56:52,389 --> 02:56:48,960
better than that

4053
02:56:55,110 --> 02:56:52,399
the performance she's never gonna mirror

4054
02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:55,120
shawn sean was just

4055
02:57:01,590 --> 02:56:57,120
sean did sean

4056
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,389
what

4057
02:57:07,190 --> 02:57:04,319
performance that

4058
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:07,200
the director wanted her to do

4059
02:57:12,469 --> 02:57:10,080
etc i thought that timothy did really

4060
02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:12,479
great in that scene as well kyle did

4061
02:57:17,510 --> 02:57:15,600
great in his scene they were both little

4062
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:17,520
they were both varied

4063
02:57:21,269 --> 02:57:18,399
right

4064
02:57:22,469 --> 02:57:21,279
um but the one thing that we saw from

4065
02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:22,479
charlemagne

4066
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:25,359
is that he had more anger towards the

4067
02:57:31,750 --> 02:57:28,640
many jesuit witches and it was all done

4068
02:57:33,830 --> 02:57:31,760
through tone and expression

4069
02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:33,840
like when that was done he could have

4070
02:57:37,269 --> 02:57:35,200
killed her

4071
02:57:39,830 --> 02:57:37,279
there was yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well

4072
02:57:43,349 --> 02:57:39,840
when he says here you you just you just

4073
02:57:46,150 --> 02:57:43,359
kicked my mom out of her own house right

4074
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:46,160
and uh standing up to her but um

4075
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:47,279
uh

4076
02:57:53,349 --> 02:57:50,160
what was interesting okay we're out of

4077
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:53,359
time but what was interesting for me

4078
02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:54,640
was that

4079
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:57,439
david lynch chose to show the inside of

4080
02:58:01,349 --> 02:57:58,560
the box

4081
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:01,359
right and yes and burning flesh

4082
02:58:06,550 --> 02:58:04,800
villanuev chose to go with the mental

4083
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:06,560
aspect of it

4084
02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:08,720
and and what the pain was going through

4085
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:10,720
interest interesting choice of the

4086
02:58:13,269 --> 02:58:12,399
director

4087
02:58:17,510 --> 02:58:13,279
yes

4088
02:58:19,030 --> 02:58:17,520
actually they both worked i mean both

4089
02:58:20,710 --> 02:58:19,040
both thing worked

4090
02:58:22,550 --> 02:58:20,720
i mean you know we're used to the

4091
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:22,560
original we've seen it a lot so it's

4092
02:58:28,389 --> 02:58:25,200
really burned into our mind but but

4093
02:58:32,070 --> 02:58:28,399
timothy did a great brilliant job of

4094
02:58:34,630 --> 02:58:32,080
portraying the mental pain and stuff but

4095
02:58:37,710 --> 02:58:34,640
i did love how it was written in that

4096
02:58:39,429 --> 02:58:37,720
lady jessica was feeding him

4097
02:58:42,710 --> 02:58:39,439
telepathically

4098
02:58:44,870 --> 02:58:42,720
about fear is the mind killer for him to

4099
02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,880
overcome it and he overcame it yeah from

4100
02:58:48,389 --> 02:58:46,399
the other side of the door

4101
02:58:50,710 --> 02:58:48,399
yeah yeah that was great and it was

4102
02:58:52,710 --> 02:58:50,720
brilliant the other choice uh that i

4103
02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:52,720
thought was interesting was david lynch

4104
02:58:57,269 --> 02:58:54,479
uh had shawn

4105
02:59:01,030 --> 02:58:57,279
pull her veil back and show her face

4106
02:59:02,150 --> 02:59:01,040
where villeneuve chose to have her face

4107
02:59:03,110 --> 02:59:02,160
covered

4108
02:59:05,510 --> 02:59:03,120
right

4109
02:59:07,830 --> 02:59:05,520
interesting interesting very you know

4110
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:07,840
and they both work for me

4111
02:59:13,510 --> 02:59:11,600
um uh sean scared the crap out of me uh

4112
02:59:15,510 --> 02:59:13,520
from the original version of the movie

4113
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:15,520
it's so good

4114
02:59:19,910 --> 02:59:18,000
so good so good

4115
02:59:22,389 --> 02:59:19,920
intelligent uh

4116
02:59:23,429 --> 02:59:22,399
her um her look

4117
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:23,439
um

4118
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:26,880
in david lynch's film was just brilliant

4119
02:59:33,269 --> 02:59:29,680
and and villanuev chose to go the

4120
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:33,279
opposite and uh and and keep her covered

4121
02:59:40,150 --> 02:59:35,279
craig what a great show man we could do

4122
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:43,190
he's never made a bad movie and

4123
02:59:48,230 --> 02:59:46,720
i love all his his influence on me

4124
02:59:50,630 --> 02:59:48,240
i can't tell you how many times i've

4125
02:59:52,950 --> 02:59:50,640
said you know i'm driving down a freeway

4126
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:52,960
in the dark with my headlights on and

4127
02:59:58,070 --> 02:59:54,160
and um

4128
03:00:02,550 --> 02:59:59,910
you know that's the influence he's had

4129
03:00:03,429 --> 03:00:02,560
on me thank you so much uh thank you

4130
03:00:05,510 --> 03:00:03,439
jimmy

4131
03:00:06,630 --> 03:00:05,520
thank you so much in the book everybody

4132
03:00:09,110 --> 03:00:06,640
the links

4133
03:00:10,670 --> 03:00:09,120
uh are at jimmychurchradio.com i've also

4134
03:00:12,550 --> 03:00:10,680
got a link up there for

4135
03:00:15,349 --> 03:00:12,560
strangeringthepentagon.com where you can

4136
03:00:18,230 --> 03:00:15,359
go and look at all of the material and

4137
03:00:20,070 --> 03:00:18,240
watch uh the short film too as well

4138
03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:20,080
thank you so much craig be safe in your

4139
03:00:23,590 --> 03:00:22,240
journeys i never heard you i never heard

4140
03:00:25,830 --> 03:00:23,600
back from

4141
03:00:28,389 --> 03:00:25,840
i i my last text is i need to know

4142
03:00:30,550 --> 03:00:28,399
before the end of the show

4143
03:00:31,910 --> 03:00:30,560
she's either on a hot date or went to

4144
03:00:36,230 --> 03:00:31,920
bed

4145
03:00:39,349 --> 03:00:36,240
craig have a great night and be safe out

4146
03:00:42,710 --> 03:00:39,359
there my friend too man thank you jimmy

4147
03:00:44,030 --> 03:00:42,720
for everybody craig compobaso and again

4148
03:00:46,389 --> 03:00:44,040
the links are over at

4149
03:00:48,070 --> 03:00:46,399
jimmychurchradio.com get the book it is

4150
03:00:49,750 --> 03:00:48,080
a fantastic read

4151
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:49,760
it's right here

4152
03:00:53,190 --> 03:00:51,040
all right

4153
03:00:55,269 --> 03:00:53,200
with that i want to remind everybody uh

4154
03:00:57,830 --> 03:00:55,279
tomorrow night we're doing

4155
03:01:00,790 --> 03:00:57,840
halloween stories halloween ghost

4156
03:01:02,230 --> 03:01:00,800
stories with jim harold all right so

4157
03:01:04,230 --> 03:01:02,240
you're not going to want to miss that

4158
03:01:06,550 --> 03:01:04,240
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4167
03:01:25,830 --> 03:01:23,520
by fade to black and the game changer

4168
03:01:27,510 --> 03:01:25,840
network inc it cannot be re-broadcast

4169
03:01:29,190 --> 03:01:27,520
download a copy to use anywhere in the

4170
03:01:30,550 --> 03:01:29,200
known universe without written

4171
03:01:32,150 --> 03:01:30,560
permission from fade to black or the

4172
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,160
game changer network i'm your host jimmy

4173
03:01:36,469 --> 03:01:34,399
church i'll see everybody tomorrow night

4174
03:01:39,670 --> 03:01:36,479
halloween ghost stories with jim harold

4175
03:01:44,010 --> 03:01:39,680
until then everybody be safe

4176
03:02:03,190 --> 03:01:44,020
it's time to fade to black